Geordie Ahmed Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 23 minutes ago, wormy said: Hi guys not been keeping up with the forum tonight. What am I angry at him for this time? Thanks in advance. X For not making subs (you'll have to ignore the fact the subs bench was honking) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 2 hours ago, duo said: Personally I think Eddie is twice the coach Pep is. Pep has managed the best players in the world, managed the best teams in the world, was able to spend the biggest budget in the world. Surprise he won lots of titles. Eddie managed a group a players who were fighting relegation season after season and turned them into a Champions League team. If we had our full squad today we would have won - KDB basically bailed them out. Was nothing Pep did other than bring him on. I love Howe and will defend him against doylems overly criticising him despite the squad being ravaged but Pep is clear of him, absurd to suggest otherwise Just spending money and having top players isn't automatically a recipe for success It's baffling that we are in 2024 and people still don't realise what an insanely immense coach Pep is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Imagine how many notifications RUHRLYASLEEVESUP has Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izakaya Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 2 hours ago, duo said: Personally I think Eddie is twice the coach Pep is. Pep has managed the best players in the world, managed the best teams in the world, was able to spend the biggest budget in the world. Surprise he won lots of titles. Eddie managed a group a players who were fighting relegation season after season and turned them into a Champions League team. If we had our full squad today we would have won - KDB basically bailed them out. Was nothing Pep did other than bring him on. This is the other side of the coin here. Astonishingly mental take. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 I’ve been very negative on him in the last few weeks but thought tactically we got it spot on first half. We were dangerous on the counter and hurt them repeatedly. Was same old story though second half. No energy and we shrank like we’ve done so much this season. Fitness levels have been poor this season for possibly multiple reasons. If a squad ever needed a holiday away to a warm weather training camp it’s now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 24 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Imagine how many notifications RUHRLYASLEEVESUP has He can give himself a slap on the back, epic stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 9 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said: I’ve been very negative on him in the last few weeks but thought tactically we got it spot on first half. We were dangerous on the counter and hurt them repeatedly. Was same old story though second half. No energy and we shrank like we’ve done so much this season. Fitness levels have been poor this season for possibly multiple reasons. If a squad ever needed a holiday away to a warm weather training camp it’s now. I was surprised we weren't going away to Saudi/Dubai but Howe Howe's explanation for staying and giving the players some time off made sense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 (edited) FWIW I even find the discussion a bit absurd. I'm not sure if Ashley completely damaged the collective mindset of the fanbase or we're just damaged by nature and the stereotype is true, but we're talking about a manager who: Survived serious relegation threat at a canter Took us to the Champions League with loads of the same squad the next season, something that just doesn't happen outside of fiction. Has us playing attacking, exciting football Has improved every player we have without exception Has us regularly battering teams, including the very best ones, in a style that I would call typically Keeganesque, or early Liverpool-era Klopp. And we're at best feeling the need to talk about how he's still the man for the job and we back him because: Let's be honest, some of our fans are mental and we don't want them or anyone like them representing the fanbase We're 10th We're out of a Champions League group made up of PSG, Dortmund and AC Milan that we were cheated out of We've had a sticky patch Even though: We've had the worst injury hit season in my lifetime, probably twice or three times over Our big summer signing is banned The thing that's in front of your eyes - the players blowing out of their arses and the last minute conceded goals - should all be so blindingly obvious as the big factor We're still handing out hidings when we've been fit, had options of the bench, or been rested this season. Like, are we fucking insane? Are you all out of your fucking minds? Howe is a gift from the gods and some are looking a gift horse in the mouth under this daft guise of 'no-one is exempt from criticism' If Ashley and Bruce was 10 years ago I'd probably get it, the standards have been raised and the memory of those days is long gone. But it was just over 2 years ago and in football terms we've gone from purgatorial hell marketed as heaven, to actual heaven curbed by hellish circumstances. How do you go from stubbornly enduring one to fickley taking the other for granted in that space of time? It's remarkable. It shouldn't even be a topic for debate, it should be a given that every one of us backs him to the hilt, he's not a legend but as far as our clubs recent history goes he's closer than anyone. Edited January 14 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 45 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said: I love Howe and will defend him against doylems overly criticising him despite the squad being ravaged but Pep is clear of him, absurd to suggest otherwise Just spending money and having top players isn't automatically a recipe for success It's baffling that we are in 2024 and people still don't realise what an insanely immense coach Pep is I don't deny Peps tactical ability - that's where Eddie has still more to learn. But as a coach - it's unreal what Eddie has done to this squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoob Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 (edited) Would be interested to see a link between the support the regime lot and the Eddie out lot. Edited January 14 by TheHoob several long island ice teas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 50 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: FWIW I even find the discussion a bit absurd. I'm not sure if Ashley completely damaged the collective mindset of the fanbase or we're just damaged by nature and the stereotype is true, but we're talking about a manager who: Survived serious relegation threat at a canter Took us to the Champions League with loads of the same squad the next season, something that just doesn't happen outside of fiction. Has us playing attacking, exciting football Has improved every player we have without exception Has us regularly battering teams, including the very best ones, in a style that I would call typically Keeganesque, or early Liverpool-era Klopp. And we're at best feeling the need to talk about how he's still the man for the job and we back him because: Let's be honest, some of our fans are mental and we don't want them or anyone like them representing the fanbase We're 10th We're out of a Champions League group made up of PSG, Dortmund and AC Milan that we were cheated out of We've had a sticky patch Even though: We've had the worst injury hit season in my lifetime, probably twice or three times over Our big summer signing is banned The thing that's in front of your eyes - the players blowing out of their arses and the last minute conceded goals - should all be so blindingly obvious as the big factor We're still handing out hidings when we've been fit, had options of the bench, or been rested this season. Like, are we fucking insane? Are you all out of your fucking minds? Howe is a gift from the gods and some are looking a gift horse in the mouth under this daft guise of 'no-one is exempt from criticism' If Ashley and Bruce was 10 years ago I'd probably get it, the standards have been raised and the memory of those days is long gone. But it was just over 2 years ago and in football terms we've gone from purgatorial hell marketed as heaven, to actual heaven curbed by hellish circumstances. How do you go from stubbornly enduring one to fickley taking the other for granted in that space of time? It's remarkable Class this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 1 hour ago, Geordie Ahmed said: For not making subs (you'll have to ignore the fact the subs bench was honking) Oh how 2023. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 (edited) For fans of charts, our rolling average expected goals diff has closed. It is very rare to see an averaged xG go limit-up like that. Edited January 14 by Jagten Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Spot on all game. Done by Kevin De Bruyne. One of the best attacking midfielders in the world. Shut the fuck up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9133818919 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 1 hour ago, Kid Icarus said: FWIW I even find the discussion a bit absurd. I'm not sure if Ashley completely damaged the collective mindset of the fanbase or we're just damaged by nature and the stereotype is true, but we're talking about a manager who: Survived serious relegation threat at a canter Took us to the Champions League with loads of the same squad the next season, something that just doesn't happen outside of fiction. Has us playing attacking, exciting football Has improved every player we have without exception Has us regularly battering teams, including the very best ones, in a style that I would call typically Keeganesque, or early Liverpool-era Klopp. And we're at best feeling the need to talk about how he's still the man for the job and we back him because: Let's be honest, some of our fans are mental and we don't want them or anyone like them representing the fanbase We're 10th We're out of a Champions League group made up of PSG, Dortmund and AC Milan that we were cheated out of We've had a sticky patch Even though: We've had the worst injury hit season in my lifetime, probably twice or three times over Our big summer signing is banned The thing that's in front of your eyes - the players blowing out of their arses and the last minute conceded goals - should all be so blindingly obvious as the big factor We're still handing out hidings when we've been fit, had options of the bench, or been rested this season. Like, are we fucking insane? Are you all out of your fucking minds? Howe is a gift from the gods and some are looking a gift horse in the mouth under this daft guise of 'no-one is exempt from criticism' If Ashley and Bruce was 10 years ago I'd probably get it, the standards have been raised and the memory of those days is long gone. But it was just over 2 years ago and in football terms we've gone from purgatorial hell marketed as heaven, to actual heaven curbed by hellish circumstances. How do you go from stubbornly enduring one to fickley taking the other for granted in that space of time? It's remarkable This needs to be a pinned post on this forum. Well said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BShearer Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 this season is a bit of a reality check for Howe but also for the club in terms of if we want to be a PL/CL force what we need to improve on an look out for. all the injuries, the sick schedule increase, the group of death CL draw, the horrific Carabao draw. these can be excuses but then excuses wont get us to be a PL/CL force. we need to improve on these and learn from them a lot and also on the transfers which were generally quite on the hit since takeover until the summer window. this time tho the way it turned out this was a mediocre window in hindsight which helped us not much really apart from the few good games Livramento had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 1 hour ago, Jagten said: For fans of charts, our rolling average expected goals diff has closed. It is very rare to see an averaged xG go limit-up like that. Some interesting analysis on what is now probably the most porous defense in the league here https://x.com/jon_mackenzie/status/1746354228828766487?s=46 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLUMPO235 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 For me, delia smith is a good cook, but if there is fuck all in the fridge that doesn’t suddenly make her a bad one. Mind you, I made a delia recipe cake once, Didn’t work properly, I don’t think the recipe was right. So, like Eddie, no one’s perfect or beyond criticism. Jeez, need some sleep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 4 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: FWIW I even find the discussion a bit absurd. I'm not sure if Ashley completely damaged the collective mindset of the fanbase or we're just damaged by nature and the stereotype is true, but we're talking about a manager who: Survived serious relegation threat at a canter Took us to the Champions League with loads of the same squad the next season, something that just doesn't happen outside of fiction. Has us playing attacking, exciting football Has improved every player we have without exception Has us regularly battering teams, including the very best ones, in a style that I would call typically Keeganesque, or early Liverpool-era Klopp. And we're at best feeling the need to talk about how he's still the man for the job and we back him because: Let's be honest, some of our fans are mental and we don't want them or anyone like them representing the fanbase We're 10th We're out of a Champions League group made up of PSG, Dortmund and AC Milan that we were cheated out of We've had a sticky patch Even though: We've had the worst injury hit season in my lifetime, probably twice or three times over Our big summer signing is banned The thing that's in front of your eyes - the players blowing out of their arses and the last minute conceded goals - should all be so blindingly obvious as the big factor We're still handing out hidings when we've been fit, had options of the bench, or been rested this season. Like, are we fucking insane? Are you all out of your fucking minds? Howe is a gift from the gods and some are looking a gift horse in the mouth under this daft guise of 'no-one is exempt from criticism' If Ashley and Bruce was 10 years ago I'd probably get it, the standards have been raised and the memory of those days is long gone. But it was just over 2 years ago and in football terms we've gone from purgatorial hell marketed as heaven, to actual heaven curbed by hellish circumstances. How do you go from stubbornly enduring one to fickley taking the other for granted in that space of time? It's remarkable. It shouldn't even be a topic for debate, it should be a given that every one of us back him to the hilt, he's not a legend but as far as our clubs recent history he's closer than anyone. Very well said. A few people are just perpetually pessimistic for the sake of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 7 hours ago, UncleBingo said: This. Be careful what you wish for. Love him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 6 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: FWIW I even find the discussion a bit absurd. I'm not sure if Ashley completely damaged the collective mindset of the fanbase or we're just damaged by nature and the stereotype is true, but we're talking about a manager who: Survived serious relegation threat at a canter Took us to the Champions League with loads of the same squad the next season, something that just doesn't happen outside of fiction. Has us playing attacking, exciting football Has improved every player we have without exception Has us regularly battering teams, including the very best ones, in a style that I would call typically Keeganesque, or early Liverpool-era Klopp. And we're at best feeling the need to talk about how he's still the man for the job and we back him because: Let's be honest, some of our fans are mental and we don't want them or anyone like them representing the fanbase We're 10th We're out of a Champions League group made up of PSG, Dortmund and AC Milan that we were cheated out of We've had a sticky patch Even though: We've had the worst injury hit season in my lifetime, probably twice or three times over Our big summer signing is banned The thing that's in front of your eyes - the players blowing out of their arses and the last minute conceded goals - should all be so blindingly obvious as the big factor We're still handing out hidings when we've been fit, had options of the bench, or been rested this season. Like, are we fucking insane? Are you all out of your fucking minds? Howe is a gift from the gods and some are looking a gift horse in the mouth under this daft guise of 'no-one is exempt from criticism' If Ashley and Bruce was 10 years ago I'd probably get it, the standards have been raised and the memory of those days is long gone. But it was just over 2 years ago and in football terms we've gone from purgatorial hell marketed as heaven, to actual heaven curbed by hellish circumstances. How do you go from stubbornly enduring one to fickley taking the other for granted in that space of time? It's remarkable. It shouldn't even be a topic for debate, it should be a given that every one of us back him to the hilt, he's not a legend but as far as our clubs recent history he's closer than anyone. This, with fucking bells on 5 hours ago, imChris said: This needs to be a pinned post on this forum. Well said. Tattooed on some cunts ample forehead, more like ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancrate1892 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 3 hours ago, FLUMPO235 said: For me, delia smith is a good cook, but if there is fuck all in the fridge that doesn’t suddenly make her a bad one. Mind you, I made a delia recipe cake once, Didn’t work properly, I don’t think the recipe was right. So, like Eddie, no one’s perfect or beyond criticism. Jeez, need some sleep. Also...sometimes the fridge is broken, or when she's trying to cook there's also a madman in the kitchen with a knife Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 6 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: FWIW I even find the discussion a bit absurd. I'm not sure if Ashley completely damaged the collective mindset of the fanbase or we're just damaged by nature and the stereotype is true, but we're talking about a manager who: Survived serious relegation threat at a canter Took us to the Champions League with loads of the same squad the next season, something that just doesn't happen outside of fiction. Has us playing attacking, exciting football Has improved every player we have without exception Has us regularly battering teams, including the very best ones, in a style that I would call typically Keeganesque, or early Liverpool-era Klopp. And we're at best feeling the need to talk about how he's still the man for the job and we back him because: Let's be honest, some of our fans are mental and we don't want them or anyone like them representing the fanbase We're 10th We're out of a Champions League group made up of PSG, Dortmund and AC Milan that we were cheated out of We've had a sticky patch Even though: We've had the worst injury hit season in my lifetime, probably twice or three times over Our big summer signing is banned The thing that's in front of your eyes - the players blowing out of their arses and the last minute conceded goals - should all be so blindingly obvious as the big factor We're still handing out hidings when we've been fit, had options of the bench, or been rested this season. Like, are we fucking insane? Are you all out of your fucking minds? Howe is a gift from the gods and some are looking a gift horse in the mouth under this daft guise of 'no-one is exempt from criticism' If Ashley and Bruce was 10 years ago I'd probably get it, the standards have been raised and the memory of those days is long gone. But it was just over 2 years ago and in football terms we've gone from purgatorial hell marketed as heaven, to actual heaven curbed by hellish circumstances. How do you go from stubbornly enduring one to fickley taking the other for granted in that space of time? It's remarkable. It shouldn't even be a topic for debate, it should be a given that every one of us back him to the hilt, he's not a legend but as far as our clubs recent history he's closer than anyone. Print it out and hang it in Louvre. Spot on mate! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 8 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: FWIW I even find the discussion a bit absurd. I'm not sure if Ashley completely damaged the collective mindset of the fanbase or we're just damaged by nature and the stereotype is true, but we're talking about a manager who: Survived serious relegation threat at a canter Took us to the Champions League with loads of the same squad the next season, something that just doesn't happen outside of fiction. Has us playing attacking, exciting football Has improved every player we have without exception Has us regularly battering teams, including the very best ones, in a style that I would call typically Keeganesque, or early Liverpool-era Klopp. And we're at best feeling the need to talk about how he's still the man for the job and we back him because: Let's be honest, some of our fans are mental and we don't want them or anyone like them representing the fanbase We're 10th We're out of a Champions League group made up of PSG, Dortmund and AC Milan that we were cheated out of We've had a sticky patch Even though: We've had the worst injury hit season in my lifetime, probably twice or three times over Our big summer signing is banned The thing that's in front of your eyes - the players blowing out of their arses and the last minute conceded goals - should all be so blindingly obvious as the big factor We're still handing out hidings when we've been fit, had options of the bench, or been rested this season. Like, are we fucking insane? Are you all out of your fucking minds? Howe is a gift from the gods and some are looking a gift horse in the mouth under this daft guise of 'no-one is exempt from criticism' If Ashley and Bruce was 10 years ago I'd probably get it, the standards have been raised and the memory of those days is long gone. But it was just over 2 years ago and in football terms we've gone from purgatorial hell marketed as heaven, to actual heaven curbed by hellish circumstances. How do you go from stubbornly enduring one to fickley taking the other for granted in that space of time? It's remarkable. It shouldn't even be a topic for debate, it should be a given that every one of us back him to the hilt, he's not a legend but as far as our clubs recent history he's closer than anyone. Absolutely spot on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ9 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 8 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: FWIW I even find the discussion a bit absurd. I'm not sure if Ashley completely damaged the collective mindset of the fanbase or we're just damaged by nature and the stereotype is true, but we're talking about a manager who: Survived serious relegation threat at a canter Took us to the Champions League with loads of the same squad the next season, something that just doesn't happen outside of fiction. Has us playing attacking, exciting football Has improved every player we have without exception Has us regularly battering teams, including the very best ones, in a style that I would call typically Keeganesque, or early Liverpool-era Klopp. And we're at best feeling the need to talk about how he's still the man for the job and we back him because: Let's be honest, some of our fans are mental and we don't want them or anyone like them representing the fanbase We're 10th We're out of a Champions League group made up of PSG, Dortmund and AC Milan that we were cheated out of We've had a sticky patch Even though: We've had the worst injury hit season in my lifetime, probably twice or three times over Our big summer signing is banned The thing that's in front of your eyes - the players blowing out of their arses and the last minute conceded goals - should all be so blindingly obvious as the big factor We're still handing out hidings when we've been fit, had options of the bench, or been rested this season. Like, are we fucking insane? Are you all out of your fucking minds? Howe is a gift from the gods and some are looking a gift horse in the mouth under this daft guise of 'no-one is exempt from criticism' If Ashley and Bruce was 10 years ago I'd probably get it, the standards have been raised and the memory of those days is long gone. But it was just over 2 years ago and in football terms we've gone from purgatorial hell marketed as heaven, to actual heaven curbed by hellish circumstances. How do you go from stubbornly enduring one to fickley taking the other for granted in that space of time? It's remarkable. It shouldn't even be a topic for debate, it should be a given that every one of us back him to the hilt, he's not a legend but as far as our clubs recent history he's closer than anyone. Yes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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