Emotic Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 1 minute ago, HTT II said: Rafa, under our new owners and their backing, won’t fail, top 6 and maybe some silverware guaranteed, I don’t think fans would ever turn on one of their ‘own’, look at KK’s second stint here, similar expectations, billionaire new owner, struggling and we had an awful spell. Of course KK gets extra special treatment, but Rafa would too IMO. "Some silverware" One piece of silverware will already immediately make him a legend. I'd love to see him back, and show what he can do with proper backing. I just wonder if the values of today's football fans will afford him the patience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 3 hours ago, TorchyTBB said: Benitez is bottom of my list, it would really take the gloss off the takeover if he came back. Wasn't keen on him when he was here and to turn his back on the fans that did love him and pleaded with him to stay for China/money, enough said. Worra load of shite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Emotic said: "Some silverware" One piece of silverware will already immediately make him a legend. I'd love to see him back, and show what he can do with proper backing. I just wonder if the values of today's football fans will afford him the patience. I think fans will, or I’d like to think they will. Our circumstances have changed now of course, but by and large, over the last 14 years we have been as patient as a saint and backed every manager, the good, the bad and the Bruce. Rafa, it goes without saying, would get the patience needed on and off the pitch IMO, more so probably from the fans than in the directors/owners box. Edited October 27, 2021 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 13 minutes ago, Miggys First Goal said: What the hell are we trying that is something big?? Klopp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 However long it takes.. how bloody exciting is it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 9 hours ago, elbee909 said: Or how they're trying to tempt Bruce back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 This football club as a whole really needs to move on from Rafa. It's not healthy to be this obsessed with one man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, xLiaaamx said: This football club as a whole really needs to move on from Rafa. It's not healthy to be this obsessed with one man. KK says fuck off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 10 minutes ago, HTT II said: I think fans will, or I’d like to think they will. Our circumstances have changed now of course, but by and large, over the last 14 years we have been as patient as a saint and backed every manager, the good, the bad and the Bruce. Rafa, it goes without saying, would get the patience needed on and off the pitch IMO, more so probably from the fans than in the directors/owners box. Of course they have. However would like to add that the last 14 years has shown that owners don't five the shortest flying figs what the fans think of the manager. If they did we wouldn't have had Pardew, Kinnear, Carver, McClaren, or lost Rafa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, xLiaaamx said: This football club as a whole really needs to move on from Rafa. It's not healthy to be this obsessed with one man. I see where you are coming from, but for me out of the names strongly linked - Fonseca, Favre, Lampard, Martinez, Howe, Gerrard, Rafa would overwhelmingly a better option than all of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Ten Hag would be an absolute dream. Might be worth putting together a dossier?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peder Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Shak said: Ten Hag would be an absolute dream. Might be worth putting together a dossier?! This Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Berta and Simeone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Where's the one for Bruce? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgk_lfc Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Raconteur said: Don't know what you're basing that on - McParland was Liverpool's chief scout when Rafa arrived there, and was made Academy Director during Rafa's time there. Rafa is very loyal to folks who show him loyalty and McParland and Owen Brown, IMO, are folks who used that loyalty to further their own career. McParland is good, don't get me wrong. He instituted a lot of programs which were well received. He is very good at communicating with youth team members, their parents, assuring them. When young players are let go, he keeps in touch with them a year or two after they are let go, helps them get jobs or spots in other academies. He also instituted some programs in our academy so that youth team players have other options if they don't make the mark. Basically, a downright nice person whom the parents and young players trust and reach out if they have issues. But not the most technically advanced coach and definitely not the type who keeps in touch with the latest developments in youth player development happening in Bayern or RB or Dortmund or Monaco and implement them here. I don't think he will get a job at any premier league club nowadays as an academy director nowadays without Rafa pushing for him. Owen Brown's influence on Rafa is puzzling. He has nothing to offer - not a great player, not a coach, not a great scout, doesn't have the connections or the influence among players. Not quite sure what he is doing in Rafa's coterie. He keeps on popping up in some form wherever Rafa gets a job. When things were not going well for Rafa at LFC, among the people who had inside knowledge, even his supporters were wondering why Rafa was associating himself with Owen Brown. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Mike said: Right, now where is the Steve Bruce version of that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 They were looking at Pocchetino before weren’t they? Not that it’s likely at all, mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Ajax have one of the best academies and the technical players which came through for Ten Haag to work with. Imagine him coming here and inheriting a squad that cannot even pass a ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
InspectorCoarse Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, LRD said: Where's the one for Bruce? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, Nobody said: Right, now where is the Steve Bruce version of that? I am also shocked this exists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeepShow4life Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, LRD said: Ajax have one of the best academies and the technical players which came through for Ten Haag to work with. Imagine him coming here and inheriting a squad that cannot even pass a ball. It would be like going from screwing Margot Robbie to Susan Boyle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emotic Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 15 minutes ago, Nobody said: Right, now where is the Steve Bruce version of that? More like a re-enactment, but accurate just the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 9 minutes ago, Mike said: I am also shocked this exists. What buttons do you press in FIFA for the floated set penis? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Ten Hag and Overmars would be a hell of a statement to make. To approach and take both of them from Ajax would make a few sit up and take notice that the new owners mean business and if we can take managers then we're coming for your players next, watch the fuck out, we want the best and we'll pay to get them. That said it would be impossible to be disappointed with Fonseca, Favre or Rafa. They all have different strengths and weakness but they're all lightyears ahead of what got sacked last week. Whoever it is needs to organise this rabble until January then inject some quality, I think a lot of people are underestimating the mess the squad is in. It's unfit, unorganised and demotivated, they're clearly not enjoying their football and that's a huge challenge for whoever comes in. They'll be backed to the hilt though, fingers crossed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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