Eddie Howe

[christ]

I’m absolutely convinced Martinez would be a disaster considering where we are and what we need to do over the next few months. That fluke FA Cup win really does mask a painfully average record.

In Premier League he has finished 16th, 16th, 15th and 18th with Wigan (for context, Bruce finished 11th the year before RM joined) then 5th, 11th and 12th with Everton. In his first season he inherited an incredibly disciplined back line - one of the best in the league - and only conceded 39 goals. The year after they conceded 48, the year he was sacked 55.

 

I don’t think a fashionable continental coach is a guarantee of success but his record absolutely pales in comparison to someone like Favre.

[Miggys First Goal]

If your options are Rafa, Fonseca, Emery or ten Hag, who are you choosing?

[MrRaspberryJam]

Just now, Miggys First Goal said:

If your options are Rafa, Fonseca, Emery or ten Hag, who are you choosing?

 

Ten Hag

Rafa

Emery

Fonseca

[PlymouthGeordie]

Just now, Miggys First Goal said:

If your options are Rafa, Fonseca, Emery or ten Hag, who are you choosing?

 

Ten Hag

Rafa

Fonseca

Emery

 

Truth be told I'd be happy with any one of them.

[Unbelievable]

5 minutes ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said:

I'm a realist but there's a part of me now that'd be gutted if we didnt get Ten Hag.  

Absolutely no chance he’s coming, and I wouldn’t want him to either.

[gdm]

Ten hag

emery

rafa

fonseca

[Rich]

Ten Hag

Benitez

Fonseca

Emery

[Ben]

Ten Hag £££££££££££££££

 

 

 

 

 

Rafa

Emery

Fonseca

[gdm]

Just now, Ben said:

Ten Hag £££££££££££££££

 

 

 

 

 

Rafa

Emery

Fonseca

You bet Ten Hag mate? You’ve not mentioned it

[Manxst]

1 minute ago, Unbelievable said:

Absolutely no chance he’s coming, and I wouldn’t want him to either.

What? Why? 

[Kid Icarus]

For the current situation it would be:

 

Rafa

Emery

ten Hag

Fonseca

 

If I had more confidence in getting a tune out of our players, it would definitely be ten Hag.

 

 

 

 

Edited November 1, 2021 by kisearch

[Sima]

1 minute ago, Rich said:

How can you go from being the best manager we’ve had since Bobby to being “finished” in a few years, though? He’s made two highly questionable career choices in a row mind, no doubt about that.

Honestly? I don’t know.

 

But as mentioned elsewhere it rarely works second time around.  I’ll always love the job he did first time around so wouldn’t want him to tarnish that if he didn’t live up to expectations.

[LV]

4 minutes ago, Miggys First Goal said:

If your options are Rafa, Fonseca, Emery or ten Hag, who are you choosing?

Rafa

 

For the whole project, not just his management skills 

[LV]

3 minutes ago, Unbelievable said:

Absolutely no chance he’s coming, and I wouldn’t want him to either.

You don’t rate him?

 

How’s he viewed in Holland?

[geordie_b]

Just now, kisearch said:

For the current situation it would be:

 

Rafa

Emery

ten Haag

Fonseca

 

If I had more confidence in getting a tune out of our players, it would definitely be ten Haag.

 

 

 

Agree with this. 

[Gaztoon]

4 minutes ago, Unbelievable said:

Absolutely no chance he’s coming, and I wouldn’t want him to either.

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

Just now, Rich said:

How can you go from being the best manager we’ve had since Bobby to being “finished” in a few years, though? He’s made two highly questionable career choices in a row mind, no doubt about that.

 

I know both know what you mean by highly questionable career choices but also think its a harsh assessment. Rafa has always come across as the type of manager that just enjoys his job and wants to work. I reckon he's also clever enough to understand that managers, and especially managers of his age, would damage their chances of future bigger jobs if they're out of work for any period of time. I'd agree that when it comes to his standing, these last 2 clubs would affect that though.  

 

I do think he's been a bit naive in taking the Everton job, mind. For all his good intentions I'm sure. Its a colossal ask given the level he'd have to maintain to be accepted. Understandably.

[Unbelievable]

Just now, Manxst said:

What? Why? 

Just feel the Ajax squad is flattering him like it flattered Bosz and De Boer before him. Also doesn’t strike me as the type of character who would shine abroad for some reason.

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

5 minutes ago, Rich said:

Ten Hag

Benitez

Fonseca

Emery

 

Would probably agree with this. Could swap Benitez with Fonseca but I think there's even arguments for both. Very different arguments of course.

[STM]

Rafa would do so much more than simply coach the team. He would sort out the club. Still not a cat in hells chance.

[Ikon]

1 minute ago, Unbelievable said:

Just feel the Ajax squad is flattering him like it flattered Bosz and De Boer before him. Also doesn’t strike me as the type of character who would shine abroad for some reason.

 

Good points imo 

[Rich]

Would he need to if we had a proper sporting director / chief exec?

[Manxst]

Just now, Unbelievable said:

Just feel the Ajax squad is flattering him like it flattered Bosz and De Boer before him. Also doesn’t strike me as the type of character who would shine abroad for some reason.

Fair enough- thanks for the reply. You don’t think his Champions League exploits or Bayern II job suggest he’d be a success elsewhere then? 

[STM]

I really worry that some are excited about Fonseca, based on very little.

 

Both Caulkin and Hope are adamant it isn't Fonseca anyway.

[Chapo]

Said it here from the outset, I have no desire for Rafa to return and I’ll actually be disappointed if he does. I want a completely fresh start from all that went before.