The Prophet Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, jack j said: Anyone else Imagine they've just not really been looking that hard so far and not even in talks with anyone..or is that just me😐 Aye, they're definitely just mugging us off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 18 minutes ago, gdm said: Wonder if Everton lose tonight rafa could become a real possibility Come on you Wolves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 25 minutes ago, gdm said: Wonder if Everton lose tonight rafa could become a real possibility Conte’s first game this weekend against Everton as well I think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Announcing during the international break? Gonna Martinez isn't it? His final games for Belgium. He quits then off to us to work with Jones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 16 minutes ago, Armchair Pundit said: Lampard, Terry or even Martinez and I'll not be happy with the appointments, even a tad disappointed in the new owners. I mean, they're not Bruce, but that's about all the enthusiasm they inspire in me I'm afraid. I don't think Gerrard or Howe could save us. Fonseca, Ten Hag or Favre would be pretty interesting. Rafa would be fun and Conte would be amazing - the realist in me thinks we'll end up with Emery though, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, I'd be alright with that I think. ... let's face it, a month or so ago I'd all but given up hope of ever enjoying football with our club ever again, it's still not sunk in that we have the owners that we do with the possibilities it brings, but then I guess that's because we've not seen any real changes so far, it'll all come in good time I'm sure. According to Ben the consortium want to make the announcement during the international break, hopefully that rules Martinez out as he’ll be busy with Belgium. Surely they want the new manager to work with the current squad during the break. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Beginnings Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 minute ago, nufcjb said: Announcing during the international break? Gonna Martinez isn't it? His final games for Belgium. He quits then off to us to work with Jones. Massive error Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, nufcjb said: Announcing during the international break? Gonna Martinez isn't it? His final games for Belgium. He quits then off to us to work with Jones. I think it will be Martinez as well 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Just now, New Beginnings said: Massive error It hasn't happened yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 29 minutes ago, jack j said: Anyone else Imagine they've just not really been looking that hard so far and not even in talks with anyone..or is that just me😐 Just you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 It's Rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BennyBlanco Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 I hope to fuck it’s not Martinez. A once in a generation group of talent with Belgium and he’s won the square root of fuck all with em. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Surely if it was Martinez we'd know? Can't imagine the Belgian press being oblivious and/or being able to keep it quiet that their national manager was on the brink of leaving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Martinez & Belgium man. Like being given the keys to the playboy mansion and not even achieving a semi on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 People are worrying too much about Martinez too soon. Yes we don't want him, but let's wait and see. Unless there's a change that points towards him being very likely to become our new manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 29 minutes ago, Miggys First Goal said: It's Rafa. He literally said he was looking forward to being at Everton when they have their new stadium. He said that last week. Surely nobody in their right mind thinks Rafa will break his contract and Everton are certainly not going to sack him any time soon. 2 months time if the fans are on his back and it might be a possibility but not now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, BennyBlanco said: I hope to fuck it’s not Martinez. A once in a generation group of talent with Belgium and he’s won the square root of fuck all with em. I've seen this sentiment repeated a lot, but it's a big ask to just go out and win a world cup or a Euros like, they have some talent but haven't exactly been favourites going into any of the tournaments he's managed. His premier league record would be more concerning, but perhaps if you were giving him the benefit of the doubt, would be far enough into the past to look beyond now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 While we are on Martinez, the over reaction to that possibility completely outweighs reality. Martinez wouldn't be my preferred choice, largely because I don't like him but to suggest he is an outright worse candidate to Favre/Fonseca is naive. His record is arguably better than theirs. Don't fall into the romantics of an untested manager from aboard because that could go either way too. I remember a clamour for Remi Garde. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, Andy said: I've seen this sentiment repeated a lot, but it's a big ask to just go out and win a world cup or a Euros like, they have some talent but haven't exactly been favourites going into any of the tournaments he's managed. His premier league record would be more concerning, but perhaps if you were giving him the benefit of the doubt, would be far enough into the past to look beyond now. Spot on. His Everton record wasn't terrible, they finished 5th under him, let's not forget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Don Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 minute ago, STM said: Spot on. His Everton record wasn't terrible, they finished 5th under him, let's not forget. And he won the cup with Wigan,even though they we're relegated,nobody would have kept them up in top Division. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 While I maybe guilty of being harsh on Martinez. He gets as much credit for finishing 5th as Pardew does. They both bombed in their second season. Everton slipped down the league as soon as Moyes' defence was dismantled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Dandy Don said: And he won the cup with Wigan,even though they we're relegated,nobody would have kept them up in top Division. Apart from Paul Jewell and Steve Bruce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Don Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 minute ago, The Prophet said: Apart from Paul Jewell and Steve Bruce Aye but they'd outstayed their welcome when Martinez was there. As for Martinez at Belgium,I wonder if he'll bring Shaun Maloney with him if he came. Ex Celtic and assistant at Belgium.... Sir Alex has said that he is an excellent coach who will go far in the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, STM said: While we are on Martinez, the over reaction to that possibility completely outweighs reality. Martinez wouldn't be my preferred choice, largely because I don't like him but to suggest he is an outright worse candidate to Favre/Fonseca is naive. His record is arguably better than theirs. Don't fall into the romantics of an untested manager from aboard because that could go either way too. I remember a clamour for Remi Garde. I don't think it is though. Favre in particular has a good track record at most clubs he's managed and Fonseca has also shown the ability to raise the performance of a team beyond their expected standard, whereas Martinez had Wigan pretty much where they'd expect to be (battling relegation) and would often spend large parts of the season in relegation places until a sporadic 5 games blitz of form. OK, he won an FA Cup but I wouldn't judge a manager's career solely on one cup tournament. Then by all accounts he benefitted greatly from a defence that was well set by his predecessor at Everton and undid that in the following season. The final point is that you can't judge a managers ability on their international record due to the vast difference in quality of opposition teams play. His biggest achievement with that squad is a Semi final with one of the best squads in international football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Mirror going with the Emery line - and not quoting another article crucially https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastle-new-manager-unai-emery-25352368 Newcastle plan to announce their new manager this week with Unai Emery emerging as the latest leading contender. Ex-Arsenal boss Emery, who lifted the Europa League last season with Villareal, has been one of the few names to gain support across the ownership structure. Others, including Paulo Fonseca, Roberto Martinez and Lucien Favre and Eddie Howe, have all split opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 ^^ Does mention "one of the few names" so if there's others that aren't mentioned maybe they'll reveal themselves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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