Zero Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 39 minutes ago, Thumbheed said: I think our inability to maintain pressure at the top end of the pitch is putting us under far more pressure defensively than our defensive unit itself. We played our best pressing formation with all pacey players deployed already Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Why oh why did we have such a rank window it’s fucked everything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 (edited) 1 hour ago, Thumbheed said: I think our inability to maintain pressure at the top end of the pitch is putting us under far more pressure defensively than our defensive unit itself. Doesn’t explain why we’re gifting goals at set pieces though. We’re absolutely shite at the back, which to some extent is due to our inability to maintain pressure at the top end of the pitch but that’s only part of a much bigger problem. Edited March 19 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis H Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 In the last 3 seasons we've drawn 23 games out of 149 in all competitions. With the better defence In 22/23 we drew 15 out of 48. Those extra points from turning stupid, avoidable defeats like the Everton and Brentford games into draws would really add up over a season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 12 hours ago, OverThere said: No. We fucked up big time by saying Isak was not for sale and then selling him when it was too late. We should of either have sold him right away or not at all We sold him when we had a bid which matched our valuation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 1 hour ago, Weezertron said: Why oh why did we have such a rank window it’s fucked everything Mainly because we can't offer the same wages as the other teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 24 minutes ago, Scoot said: We sold him when we had a bid which matched our valuation. This, what fucked us was not signing the replacement at start of window. PSR probably part to blame, but we really need replacements through the door 6 months at the least before sale. If no bid came in the club would feel would have been waste but we ended up wasting loads of money on strikers anyway. Shouldn't have gone all in on Wissa whom has proved a total waste of time and brentford rinsed us. I for one still think Woltemade has something and will come good one day when system is different or something and i dont blame club taking a punt, he is young and i think second season under eddie training he can be a beast still. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewel Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 29 minutes ago, Scoot said: We sold him when we had a bid which matched our valuation. Couldn't we have tried to negotiate something much earlier? I'm sure even Liverpool would have preferred to have wrapped things up much earlier instead of matching our valuation at the very last minute. The way that whole transfer saga played out badly fucked both clubs tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Ellis H said: In the last 3 seasons we've drawn 23 games out of 149 in all competitions. With the better defence In 22/23 we drew 15 out of 48. Those extra points from turning stupid, avoidable defeats like the Everton and Brentford games into draws would really add up over a season. Fair comment. But turning the draws and soft losses into wins would have a much bigger impact. In the league we're 8th for scoring goals and 14th for conceding goals. We can stick the ball in the onion bag much better than we can keep the ball out of the onion bag. And loads of those goals have been conceded when we've had a foothold, we're 3rd worst in the league for points dropped from winning positions. And we're bottom of the rankings for Points Gained From Losing Positions. Once we go behind, we're fucked. You can't build a successful side when you're weak as piss at both holding onto a lead and coming back from being behind. The current NUFC is a soft touch. Edited March 19 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 (edited) On 19/03/2026 at 13:04, dcmk said: Mainly because we can't offer the same wages as the other teams. Plenty teams had better windows with lesser budgets. Yes we lost out on top targets because of wages but our plan was nonexistent at worst and very poorly executed at best. Going into the season with no senior striker and trying to hold on to Callum Wilson early in the window speaks to a real lack of strategic direction, scouting, flexibility and an overly sentimental approach. Edited March 20 by Ronaldo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 1 hour ago, dcmk said: Mainly because we can't offer the same wages as the other teams. Agreed, our approach was wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matta Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Hope we can focus on getting our strikes going now. Maybe even have a decent run! But kinda finding our style and stability would be Nice, and something to build on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 11 minutes ago, Weezertron said: Agreed, our approach was wrong. I feel like with our first trophy in forever and CL qualification we thought we might be able to convince players that we were an attractive destination. Certainly the likes of Joao Pedro, I had no reason to think we couldn't get them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J7 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 50 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: Plenty teams had better windows with lesser budgets. Yes we lost out on top targets because of wages but our plan was nonexistent at worst and very poorly executed at best. Going into the season with no senior striker and trying to hold on to Callum Wilson early in the window speaks to a real lack of strategic direction, scouting, flexibility and and overly sentimental approach. True. Our approach was all wrong. Pretty much all the targets were likely to pick one of the other clubs as soon as they came in. Maybe apart from Delap who I think made an error going to Chelsea. Caulkin was on The Athletic podcast earlier in the week talking about the summer saying we made a deliberate decision to shop in the PL as we couldn’t find much value abroad. Baffling. The ‘poor us’ stuff doesn’t wash. We spent an absolute shit load and aren’t really stronger anywhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J7 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 8 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I feel like with our first trophy in forever and CL qualification we thought we might be able to convince players that we were an attractive destination. Certainly the likes of Joao Pedro, I had no reason to think we couldn't get them. All the noises were he wanted to be in London and he’d pretty much rejected us in the past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 2 hours ago, Weezertron said: Why oh why did we have such a rank window it’s fucked everything Which window? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 1 hour ago, Tiresias said: This, what fucked us was not signing the replacement at start of window. PSR probably part to blame, but we really need replacements through the door 6 months at the least before sale. If no bid came in the club would feel would have been waste but we ended up wasting loads of money on strikers anyway. Shouldn't have gone all in on Wissa whom has proved a total waste of time and brentford rinsed us. I for one still think Woltemade has something and will come good one day when system is different or something and i dont blame club taking a punt, he is young and i think second season under eddie training he can be a beast still. To be fair we tried to. Delap turned us down Joao Pedro turned us down Then Ekitike We wasted time on pursuing those before the Isak saga really blew up. Then I think someone at the club actually believed Isak could be persuaded to stay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 10 minutes ago, J7 said: All the noises were he wanted to be in London and he’d pretty much rejected us in the past. OK but the point remains, I thought we would be very attractive to signings generally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 24 minutes ago, toontownman said: Which window? The one that left us converting a winger into a striker. That window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 1 hour ago, toontownman said: To be fair we tried to. Delap turned us down Joao Pedro turned us down Then Ekitike We wasted time on pursuing those before the Isak saga really blew up. Then I think someone at the club actually believed Isak could be persuaded to stay. We can add other known Toon-refusers and others that weren’t made available to that list as well (Mbeumo, Sesko, Strand Larsen, even Semenyo in the previous summer). Imagine having had Ekitike, Mbeumo and Semenyo in the ranks at the beginning of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J7 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 (edited) 1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: OK but the point remains, I thought we would be very attractive to signings generally. Fair enough. I didn’t, not for players we were going after. I kinda thought we would have been trying to sign potential (Hall, Tino, Botman type) with the odd experienced player, not players the 6 clubs with the biggest turnover wanted. Of the players we did sign, Elanga was hugely overpriced despite his recent improvement, and by signing Ramsey we have given a direct rival a huge PSR boost. Wissa was absolutely ridiculous at that price. The whole thing was a mess and it looked a mess at the time. I don’t blame players like Bruno and Tonali having their agents put the feelers out. We aren’t what was promised. Last nights naive tactical disaster in our biggest match of the season won’t have helped. Edited March 19 by J7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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andycap Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 I think we need a better system that plays possession football to navigate European football and domestically. We will never be able to keep up this run our arses off type of plan that Eddie likes. We need to be able to keep the ball to get breaks in matches for the squad fitness so we don't get as many muscle injuries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 2 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I feel like with our first trophy in forever and CL qualification we thought we might be able to convince players that we were an attractive destination. Certainly the likes of Joao Pedro, I had no reason to think we couldn't get them. That's the worrying part. You would think someone on the coaching and recruitment staff would have a better idea of where our players heads are at, and likewise for the players we were scouting. I don't think Isak getting his head turned should have come out of the blue, and the same would be the case for Tino, Hall and Tonali this coming summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 2 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I feel like with our first trophy in forever and CL qualification we thought we might be able to convince players that we were an attractive destination. Certainly the likes of Joao Pedro, I had no reason to think we couldn't get them. If it had been us or West Ham do you think he'd still have chosen London ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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