ChrisMcQuillan Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, hakka said: Do you not think our circumstances are a factor? - relegation threatened, shit squad, inadequate infrastructure, crap facilities, shit start to season, a lot of hard work to turnaround and UK press are a pack of cunts. There is the allure of serious money being here over time to make a club a trophy winning side, but for first year it's going to be very hard. Leaving the comfort of your native speaking country and leave your post at a CL playing based club to come to us in the circumstances isn't completely down to the owners. An inability to get Emery is understandable. Having it leak out to the press, and having it discussed openly that NUFC are “confident” only to have Emery reject us, is not understandable. It’s sloppy, from a PR perspective. There was clearly a briefing from someone in the last few days when Emery became #1. The eyes of the world are now on the club, willing us to fail in most circles. Things have to be of a high standard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Think I’ve solved it, lads! ”There has been work to do on personal terms and there still is, with Lee Charnley, managing director under Mike Ashley and still in post now, handling negotiations.” From Caulkin on The Athletic today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Just now, Rich said: Think I’ve solved it, lads! ”There has been work to do on personal terms and there still is, with Lee Charnley, managing director under Mike Ashley and still in post now, handling negotiations.” From Caulkin on The Athletic today. It’s criminal he’s allowed such an important role still Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Just now, Rich said: Think I’ve solved it, lads! ”There has been work to do on personal terms and there still is, with Lee Charnley, managing director under Mike Ashley and still in post now, handling negotiations.” From Caulkin on The Athletic today. If this is true it’s a disaster. he’s meant to be handing over and should be no where near the front line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Rich said: Think I’ve solved it, lads! ”There has been work to do on personal terms and there still is, with Lee Charnley, managing director under Mike Ashley and still in post now, handling negotiations.” From Caulkin on The Athletic today. ???????? Well there you go. Charners is sorting shit. Nothing to worry about then!? Edited November 3, 2021 by PauloGeordio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Ballague confirming again now that Emery is definitely staying at villareal. Top managers like Xavi... Literally the first time I've seen Xavi or Low mentioned by anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Charlies said: In reality the Spanish press has been briefed by Villarreal that he's said he's staying, the meeting they had was successful and such. The same Villarreal that said there'd been no contact from NUFC when obviously there had been, the same Villarreal who have just won their first major trophy in years under the manager currently being linked with NUFC. Have a think about it. Hope you’re right. It’s giving me flashbacks to a previous transfer saga. Maybe a French club? Denied it was happening until the last minute and it happened, naturally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) Let's see what today brings. If he's reluctant he obviously never was the right man for the job. I don't buy that he hasn't bought into the vision though, if this was the case he wouldn't have planned further talks today. Edited November 3, 2021 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Whatever the outcome, I would not blame the owners, just yet. I agree Bruce should have gone immediately but appointing a new manager in our current state, was always going to be a challenge. Our club is a total mess at the moment, and whilst they must have realised that before agreeing the deal, we have had a shocking start to the season and we are now seeing, to the worst extent possible, the knock on effect of years of mismanagement, under investment and zero ambition. The players, for the most part, know they are not good enough for what this club will become. At this moment they are championship fodder and they know it and they are playing like it. I would think any manager, especially a decent one, will see right through that. Its a tough gig, in the short term. Medium to long term however, it could be very exciting. Sadly our media vultures (and some fans) don't give anyone the time they need (just look at Spurs). I guess I am just being realistic about who we might expect to get as it stands... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, ChrisMcQuillan said: An inability to get Emery is understandable. Having it leak out to the press, and having it discussed openly that NUFC are “confident” only to have Emery reject us, is not understandable. It’s sloppy, from a PR perspective. There was clearly a briefing from someone in the last few days when Emery became #1. The eyes of the world are now on the club, willing us to fail in most circles. Things have to be of a high standard. And you do see how the leak is unlikely to be deliberate or specifically from our owners yes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMcQuillan Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 minute ago, hakka said: And you do see how the leak is unlikely to be deliberate or specifically from our owners yes? Yes, I’m not an idiot. But if I’m in charge of a business or department leaking information, it’s a bad look for me. You can’t just say, “Oh, well, the leak came from the tea lady, so all in all, no harm done.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzaschicken Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Let's see what today brings. If he's reluctant he obviously never was tge right man for the job. I don't buy that he hasn't bought into the vision though, if this was the case he wouldn't have planned further talks today. I don't understand how you couldn't buy into the vision it's clear where the club is at and with the wealth of the owners it's clear where the club is heading. Maybe some guarantees wanted on relegation could put some doubt in someone but I don't suppose any manager is in the game for an easy life Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rich said: Hope you’re right. It’s giving me flashbacks to a previous transfer saga. Maybe a French club? Denied it was happening until the last minute and it happened, naturally. Many clubs have done this, although I cant quite remember the saga you've mentioned, but my minds frazzled off nightshift I hope I'm right too, call it faith. It honestly wouldn't suprise me if I wake up later and he's actually on his way here, yesterday morning nothing was mentioned and I woke up at ~5pm to all the Emery talk. That's 6 hours in football. Anything is possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Surely Emery knows how the British press works, so them leaping to early conclusions and writing incorrect shit should not be a surprise. I suspect this is a ‘play hard to get’ tactic and helps to keep good standing with the Villarreal fans if things don’t pan out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awaymag Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 minute ago, hakka said: And you do see how the leak is unlikely to be deliberate or specifically from our owners yes? FARCE, FARCE, FARCE Ive held off but I am having real concerns now if this doesn't go through. 1st there was win the PL in 5 years shit. and then the delay to sack Bruce and now this..........3 mistakes in 4 weeks We are sinking quick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 minute ago, ChrisMcQuillan said: Yes, I’m not an idiot. But if I’m in charge of a business or department leaking information, it’s a bad look for me. You can’t just say, “Oh, well, the leak came from the tea lady, so all in all, no harm done.” 2nd time as well with the Bruce non-sacking as well. It looks poor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamjk007 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) Interesting piece mentioned on nufc.com A local radio journalist reported that Emery had said goodbye to his squad in the dressing room immediately before that post-match media duty. Edited November 3, 2021 by adamjk007 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Pilgrim Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, hakka said: And you do see how the leak is unlikely to be deliberate or specifically from our owners yes? The conte story seems to be what has agitated someone into making news before the news was made. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, Dan Gleebals said: Whatever the outcome, I would not blame the owners, just yet. I agree Bruce should have gone immediately but appointing a new manager in our current state, was always going to be a challenge. Our club is a total mess at the moment, and whilst they must have realised that before agreeing the deal, we have had a shocking start to the season and we are now seeing, to the worst extent possible, the knock on effect of years of mismanagement, under investment and zero ambition. The players, for the most part, know they are not good enough for what this club will become. At this moment they are championship fodder and they know it and they are playing like it. I would think any manager, especially a decent one, will see right through that. Its a tough gig, in the short term. Medium to long term however, it could be very exciting. Sadly our media vultures (and some fans) don't give anyone the time they need (just look at Spurs). I guess I am just being realistic about who we might expect to get as it stands... We managed to get Rafa in worse circumstances (relegation threat) but admittingly a better squad. But agree with sentiment of your post. It's a massive job at every level - someone may love the idea of shaping it all, but steering us away from relegation and doing the rest may seem like more hassle than it's worth short term. In particular as clubs can fire people if they don't perform quickly in this league. Emery has been a victim to that despite a good first season at Arsenal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Just now, Awaymag said: FARCE, FARCE, FARCE Ive held off but I am having real concerns now if this doesn't go through. 1st there was win the PL in 5 years shit. and then the delay to sack Bruce and now this..........3 mistakes in 4 weeks We are sinking quick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Luque Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 10 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Ballague confirming again now that Emery is definitely staying at villareal. "Mr. Emery, there are leaks! And pressure!" "Ooof, if that's the case, I'm out." What a load of shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Just now, Awaymag said: FARCE, FARCE, FARCE Ive held off but I am having real concerns now if this doesn't go through. 1st there was win the PL in 5 years shit. and then the delay to sack Bruce and now this..........3 mistakes in 4 weeks We are sinking quick Someone hasn’t had their Weetabix this morning Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 If anyone turns us down then they should henceforth be dead to us, none of this “oh I’ll manage you when it gets easier” nonsense. Anyone we get has to be prepared to do the hard bit over the next 18 months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, ChrisMcQuillan said: Yes, I’m not an idiot. But if I’m in charge of a business or department leaking information, it’s a bad look for me. You can’t just say, “Oh, well, the leak came from the tea lady, so all in all, no harm done.” We have no idea the leak even came from our side. Nobody is saying leaks are not damaging in some form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzaschicken Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Is it not abit ironic that balague is saying the issue for emery is the leaking whilst at the same time leaking that he is not taking the job Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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