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4 minutes ago, gbandit said:

This is it, personalised and targeted management / coaching that is extremely constructive. I can’t even imagine having a manager now who isn’t also an amazing coach. Eddie is winning trophies with us, it’s happening within two years 

 

I'm paraphrasing but I remember him saying something like "I can work with anyone. The only thing I will not tolerate is having no desire to improve". 

 

It's why he fell out with Defoe at Bournemouth.

 

 

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20 minutes ago, 54 said:

Schar was class under Rafa, so we always knew there was a player there, it's just he despised Bruce and played accordingly under him, which is understandable tbh :lol:

That's a nicer way of saying what i said ?

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17 minutes ago, 54 said:

Schar was class under Rafa, so we always knew there was a player there, it's just he despised Bruce and played accordingly under him, which is understandable tbh :lol:

Class under Rafa in a back 5. I don’t think many people were convinced he could be this good in a back 4. 
 

He’s also criminally under rated on the ball in the media. Under rated in general. Botman been great but Schar has been better. Schar is far more exposed due to how high Trippier plays while Burn is much closer to Botman. 

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Understand why Staveley wanted him in, as he's got that ridiculous winning mentality that Rafa had as well. Never satisfied, not even when 5-0 up after 20 minutes. It's always about the next 10 minutes, we always need to stay alert and be at our best. 

Remember how Rafa used to call players over just after we scored a goal? Eddie does that as well, but expects the entire team to already know what he's about to say :smitten:

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What a team spirit this guy has fostered, see wilson celebrating with isak after the game, despite Wilson i am sure feeling its a bit rough to be scoring goals and being on bench, but there seems to be so much buy in and love in the squad. This is by far the most likeable squad in my time supporting the toon, and as much as i look forward to new players i really love all this squad even fucking murphy right now

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Just now, Tiresias said:

What a team spirit this guy has fostered, see wilson celebrating with isak after the game, despite Wilson i am sure feeling its a bit rough to be scoring goals and being on bench, but there seems to be so much buy in and love in the squad. This is by far the most likeable squad in my time supporting the toon, and as much as i look forward to new players i really love all this squad even fucking murphy right now

 

 

You should love Murphy, what a game he had.

 

 

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57 minutes ago, 54 said:

Schar was class under Rafa, so we always knew there was a player there, it's just he despised Bruce and played accordingly under him, which is understandable tbh :lol:

 

tbf we knew Longstaff & Almiron were class under Rafa too.

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(admitably it's probably easy to love a squad that is winning, but I think actually weirdly even in the bruce years the squad were a good bunch, following relegation we lost the mercenaries and rafa built a good unit, lascelles, ritchie, hayden etc all had character etc, just not quality. Still, all the additions all seem right good eggs

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4 minutes ago, Conjo said:

 

tbf we knew Longstaff & Almiron were class under Rafa too.

 

They only had a short run under him but we seen enough to think there was something there anyway. 

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4 minutes ago, Tiresias said:

(admitably it's probably easy to love a squad that is winning, but I think actually weirdly even in the bruce years the squad were a good bunch, following relegation we lost the mercenaries and rafa built a good unit, lascelles, ritchie, hayden etc all had character etc, just not quality. Still, all the additions all seem right good eggs

 

You're absolutely right; on the whole it's been a really likeable squad ever since Rafa's rebuild in the Championship. I think Lascelles probably deserves some credit for it, tbf. There's been a good dressing room character for the whole time he's been captain, Bruce provocations aside. 

 

I'm sure someone could dig out a post where I'm calling Shelvey out, or someone, but I didn't have any issue with the players between 2019-21. It's clear what (who) the problem was then. I just assumed most of the players had about as much respect for Bruce as I did. 

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Looking at the criticism of spurs players and others through the league it occurs to me more now following the bruce years how much players are improved or impinged by management. All the spurs fans screaming all players not fit to wear the shirt, I think of feeling the same about Longstaff who I thought may have just had a purple patch in a specific tactical formation, I never hated miggy (how could you) but thought he was probably just a likeable hard runner lacking anything close to talent required to succeed in the league and i thought Joelinton was hard working but completely ineffective too. 

 

It's genuinely distressing when you think about it how many players who I'm sure could have had great careers with right coaches but got written off because of waste of space PFMs and were at the wrong place wrong time. So much luck. 

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2 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

You're absolutely right; on the whole it's been a really likeable squad ever since Rafa's rebuild in the Championship. I think Lascelles probably deserves some credit for it, tbf. There's been a good dressing room character for the whole time he's been captain, Bruce provocations aside. 

 

I'm sure someone could dig out a post where I'm calling Shelvey out, or someone, but I didn't have any issue with the players between 2019-21. It's clear what (who) the problem was then. I just assumed most of the players had about as much respect for Bruce as I did. 

 

Shelvey's an odd one, he fluctuated when he bought in he really did, but that half season when things proper clicked under rafa was almost entirely brought about because Rafa realised that Shelvey needed too much carrying in midfield, dropped him, went to 3 at the back and essentially made Lejeune and Schar the playmakers in the team. Shelvey sulked and was all for bruce when he came in because of this, then blew hot and cold cos bruce was never demanding much of him. I still will give him credit, he did step up under Howe when he was fit but he needs to feel the special one in the team.

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12 minutes ago, Nobody said:

Understand why Staveley wanted him in, as he's got that ridiculous winning mentality that Rafa had as well. Never satisfied, not even when 5-0 up after 20 minutes. It's always about the next 10 minutes, we always need to stay alert and be at our best. 

Remember how Rafa used to call players over just after we scored a goal? Eddie does that as well, but expects the entire team to already know what he's about to say :smitten:

 

Honestly feels more like the Keegan era, the value of our players rose exponentially while he was given free reign.

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1 hour ago, 54 said:

Joelinton

Longstaff

Almiron

Murphy

 

Who's the next one that gets Howe'd? At this point I'm expecting Dummett to become the next Roberto Carlos :lol:


I think you have to add Willock and Schar to that list both players we knew could be good on their day but are now delivering consistently high quality performances.

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Does anyone know - Did Amanda approach Eddie for the job or did Eddie just apply?  Either way - fair play Amanda but if this was someone she actively approached.  :notbad:

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2 hours ago, 54 said:

Joelinton

Longstaff

Almiron

Murphy

 

Who's the next one that gets Howe'd? At this point I'm expecting Dummett to become the next Roberto Carlos :lol:

 

More hilarious is how at odds it all is with the drivel the press were spouting about their being potential schisms in the squad when we made signings and existing players downing tools as they might not be here for the long term. If we get CL qualification I’m going to go back and record all the utter reactionary drivel that was spouted in the first few months after the takeover/Howe was appointed.

 

Yes I should get better hobbies but I’m an extremely petty individual.

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2 hours ago, TRon said:

 

Honestly feels more like the Keegan era, the value of our players rose exponentially while he was given free reign.

 

So true. Howe has probably generated the club 10* his wages just in increased player values.

 

Those people who say "it's about the players, not the manager" or "the players need to take some responsibility, it's not the manager's fault" are fucking idiots. But we hear it all the time.

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I'll be completely honest and say that sometimes I question his starting line-ups, but then he goes and proves me wrong. I do need to stop the habit.

 

I only started following Newcastle back in 2010-11 so outside of Rafa, I've only known shite like Pardew, Carver, Bruce and McClaren.

 

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3 minutes ago, Mazzy said:

According to Twitter, if we can achieve 13 points from the last 21 available then Howe will have the highest points total recorded by an English manager in the Premier League. 

 

Nah, that's not true. 13 points would put us on 72, we got 77 and 78 in 93-94 and 95-96 respectively under Keegan.

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