AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 People like St Maximan and Almiron could be part of a top 6 team, arguably so could Shelvey with the right players around him. It’ll be interesting to see what the new regime go for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 I was thinking about the players I'd definitely like to keep short term and came up with: Dubravka, Lascelles, Lejuene, Schar, Longstaff brothers, Almiron and ASM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 I was thinking about the players I'd definitely like to keep short term and came up with: Dubravka, Lascelles, Lejuene, Schar, Longstaff brothers, Almiron and ASM. Yeah. Plus Joelinton. Think he'll play his part off the bench and start finding his feet. Also, no one else will take him now so might as well try our best to develop him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 I was thinking about the players I'd definitely like to keep short term and came up with: Dubravka, Lascelles, Lejuene, Schar, Longstaff brothers, Almiron and ASM. Can we add Jetro Willems to that list? I know he's not ours but i still want us to keep him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky Jim Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 I was thinking about the players I'd definitely like to keep short term and came up with: Dubravka, Lascelles, Lejuene, Schar, Longstaff brothers, Almiron and ASM. Can we add Jetro Willems to that list? I know he's not ours but i still want us to keep him. I’d keep Fernandez and give JoeLinton another year, if only for the fact we’d get Nowt for him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Joelinton is a funny one. He has shown nothing so far, but you are right, lets see what a proper manager could get out of him first, before binning him off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 I was thinking about the players I'd definitely like to keep short term and came up with: Dubravka, Lascelles, Lejuene, Schar, Longstaff brothers, Almiron and ASM. As far as CBs go, I'd rather keep Schar and Fernandez over any of the others. Assuming that with better players in currently weak areas, we will revert to a back 4, that would be my starting pair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 People like St Maximan and Almiron could be part of a top 6 team, arguably so could Shelvey with the right players around him. It’ll be interesting to see what the new regime go for. Shelvey wouldn't get into a top 6 team. He's so far apart from "the right players around him" that it'd never happen. Stick him in the Man City team and he'd be massively exposed, but he's just not at that quality. I can't work out why people keep claiming it. You don't get "top 6 players" wandering around the pitch like Shelvey does. That's not because he's got Longstaff of Hayden next to him, it's because his mentality is shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 People like St Maximan and Almiron could be part of a top 6 team, arguably so could Shelvey with the right players around him. It’ll be interesting to see what the new regime go for. Shelvey wouldn't get into a top 6 team. He's so far apart from "the right players around him" that it'd never happen. Stick him in the Man City team and he'd be massively exposed, but he's just not at that quality. I can't work out why people keep claiming it. You don't get "top 6 players" wandering around the pitch like Shelvey does. That's not because he's got Longstaff of Hayden next to him, it's because his mentality is shite. Shelvey has played for a top 6 club at Liverpool and has he improved since then no and they were happy to get rid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Shelvey and Ritchie must be rubbing their hands like. Even if they’re nowhere near the team they’ve got nice contracts to sit on. Could see them eventually having to be loaned out until they expire or farmed out with us having to pay a chunk of their wages. Or they might turn out to be useful contributors when they have more talented players around them. Both were on their way out of the club under Rafa. Mainly because he knew what the fuck he was doing. Truth is you achieve fuck all with people like Shelvey and Ritchie in your teams at PL level. Survival at best. Shelvey would be one of the first I'd ship out tbh. Agree 100%. I'd far rather keep Joelinton as a bench warmer just because he's young and still acclimatising. Could well perform far better when he's not got the pressure of being the number one striker at the head of a shit team. Shelvey and Ritchie are both too immobile to be a part of a top 6 team. The only reason they were given new contracts was because they are perfectly suited to a team trying to avoid relegation. They don't have the legs to compete at the top end, but both can produce the odd moment of quality which might win the few points which make the difference between staying up and going down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Players like Almiron and ASM will look like completely different players if we surround them with real quality. They would thrive in a team like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 People like St Maximan and Almiron could be part of a top 6 team, arguably so could Shelvey with the right players around him. It’ll be interesting to see what the new regime go for. Shelvey wouldn't get into a top 6 team. He's so far apart from "the right players around him" that it'd never happen. Stick him in the Man City team and he'd be massively exposed, but he's just not at that quality. I can't work out why people keep claiming it. You don't get "top 6 players" wandering around the pitch like Shelvey does. That's not because he's got Longstaff of Hayden next to him, it's because his mentality is shite. I think with Shelvey it's not a question of his technical ability but more so his mentality. Seems to give up too easily if he's not up for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 People like St Maximan and Almiron could be part of a top 6 team, arguably so could Shelvey with the right players around him. It’ll be interesting to see what the new regime go for. Shelvey wouldn't get into a top 6 team. He's so far apart from "the right players around him" that it'd never happen. Stick him in the Man City team and he'd be massively exposed, but he's just not at that quality. I can't work out why people keep claiming it. You don't get "top 6 players" wandering around the pitch like Shelvey does. That's not because he's got Longstaff of Hayden next to him, it's because his mentality is shite. Aye Shelvey kind of needs a team built around him, and a team built around Shelvey will only be as good as midtable at his very best and more often lower PL/high Championship Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Shelvey is somewhat limited in some areas, but with stronger players around him surely the same applies to him - that he'd be better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 People like St Maximan and Almiron could be part of a top 6 team, arguably so could Shelvey with the right players around him. It’ll be interesting to see what the new regime go for. Shelvey wouldn't get into a top 6 team. He's so far apart from "the right players around him" that it'd never happen. Stick him in the Man City team and he'd be massively exposed, but he's just not at that quality. I can't work out why people keep claiming it. You don't get "top 6 players" wandering around the pitch like Shelvey does. That's not because he's got Longstaff of Hayden next to him, it's because his mentality is shite. I think with Shelvey it's not a question of his technical ability but more so his mentality. Seems to give up too easily if he's not up for it. Players like Almiron and ASM will look like completely different players if we surround them with real quality. They would thrive in a team like that. Definitely. We have a great core of players that will look completely different with a next level set of players around them. I think we all know the result of whether Shelvey will excel or not, not least if Rafa comes back. Maybe he will surprise us. Interested to see what happens to the loanees. Willems, Rose, Bentaleb and Lazaro. Willems is the only one I want back for sure. Not that we couldn't potentially upgrade on them all if the ownership goes through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 I was starting to like the look of Lazaro in a 3 with ASM and Almiron, but he'll probably be off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Aye, Lazaro was beginning to show some good awareness in addition to good feet, quick touches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Would bin Shelvey off, like others have said he just doesn’t have it to be in a top 6 team. Would rebuild our entire midfield. I think both Longstaffs would be worth keeping and building around tbh. Both at different times have shown they can play a good ball across the field, and I think both have a handful of goals in them under a more positive/capable manager. I'd definitely rather keep both of them ahead of Shelvey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 I'd have both Longstaff out on a loan to a top championship club for a year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Would bin Shelvey off, like others have said he just doesn’t have it to be in a top 6 team. Would rebuild our entire midfield. I think both Longstaffs would be worth keeping and building around tbh. Both at different times have shown they can play a good ball across the field, and I think both have a handful of goals in them under a more positive/capable manager. I'd definitely rather keep both of them ahead of Shelvey. 200% With a decent manager and better players to work with and learn from I am sure they will look like different players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 You keep Sean and Matty and let them develop with better players around them, 100%. Look forward to situations where both of those lads can be playing in a good team and having chances at goal - incredible strikers of the ball those lads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Shelvey is somewhat limited in some areas, but with stronger players around him surely the same applies to him - that he'd be better. The problem is he is limited in the worst area for a footballer, his stamina and work rate. If you want to make a direct comparison, how about Yahya Toure? Thought he was the bee's knees, but his quality meant nothing at the top end of the Premier, where other teams could produce slightly less end product, but twice the energy to dominate games. Pep recognised this and binned him off when he got too comfortable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Shelvey is somewhat limited in some areas, but with stronger players around him surely the same applies to him - that he'd be better. The problem is he is limited in the worst area for a footballer, his stamina and work rate. If you want to make a direct comparison, how about Yahya Toure? Thought he was the bee's knees, but his quality meant nothing at the top end of the Premier, where other teams could produce slightly less end product, but twice the energy to dominate games. Pep recognised this and binned him off when he got too comfortable. Toure was a physical beast. Shelvey is something from 2am outside a kebab shop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Shelvey is somewhat limited in some areas, but with stronger players around him surely the same applies to him - that he'd be better. The problem is he is limited in the worst area for a footballer, his stamina and work rate. If you want to make a direct comparison, how about Yahya Toure? Thought he was the bee's knees, but his quality meant nothing at the top end of the Premier, where other teams could produce slightly less end product, but twice the energy to dominate games. Pep recognised this and binned him off when he got too comfortable. What absolute nonsense. Toure was absolutely brilliant Basically won Man City the league one of the years they won Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Shelvey is somewhat limited in some areas, but with stronger players around him surely the same applies to him - that he'd be better. The problem is he is limited in the worst area for a footballer, his stamina and work rate. If you want to make a direct comparison, how about Yahya Toure? Thought he was the bee's knees, but his quality meant nothing at the top end of the Premier, where other teams could produce slightly less end product, but twice the energy to dominate games. Pep recognised this and binned him off when he got too comfortable. Yaya Toure frequently dominated the top sides whenever he played and was undoubtedly the best midfielder in the league for a great period of his time there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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