Guest chopey Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Stones is a poor defender. Schar and Lejeune both better. Agree, Stones is overrated yet when I first saw him live when Everton played us he was very young but fucking terrific Unfortunately he believed his own hype far to much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Gonna keep the homegrown quota up too though, and £40m is nothing for an England international. We should sign Foden too though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Silent Face Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Not the biggest stones fan, but if he’s available for £40m, wants to come and we want him then I’d be very happy. Depends how we would plan to set up I guess, 3 at the back then maybe... he'd be in contention with Lejeune though because there's no way he gets in ahead of Schar and you need a Fede/Lascelles type in there too. Yep. He's not a patch on Schar, Lascelles or Fernandez like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 I'm not a fan of him but it's much easier to defend when you play like us than when you play for a team like Man City that leaves you exposed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Not the biggest stones fan, but if he’s available for £40m, wants to come and we want him then I’d be very happy. Good grief. Have you actually watched him play these last two seasons? He's regressed enormously. City even resorted to putting g a midfielder in his position rather than play him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 People turning their noses up at Stones. I like our defenders but he’d be a step above any CB we’ve had after Woodgate in memory. If we’re going to be the sort of club who are going to start spending the money, we’re clearly going to be looking to challenge top 4. Someone who can play like him will be huge in games we’re trying to open up a team like how we set up now for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 I'd take Stones like, he'd be decent backup for Lejeune and Schar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 People turning their noses up at Stones. I like our defenders but he’d be a step above any CB we’ve had after Woodgate in memory. If we’re going to be the sort of club who are going to start spending the money, we’re clearly going to be looking to challenge top 4. Someone who can play like him will be huge in games we’re trying to open up a team like how we set up now for example. Better than Coloccini? Nah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 People turning their noses up at Stones. I like our defenders but he’d be a step above any CB we’ve had after Woodgate in memory. If we’re going to be the sort of club who are going to start spending the money, we’re clearly going to be looking to challenge top 4. Someone who can play like him will be huge in games we’re trying to open up a team like how we set up now for example. We’re going to be limited with ffp too though. We’re pretty good in terms of cbs. We need so many players I really wouldn’t bother thinking about new cbs for a while. Yes we can do better, but they’re fine for now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 People turning their noses up at Stones. I like our defenders but he’d be a step above any CB we’ve had after Woodgate in memory. If we’re going to be the sort of club who are going to start spending the money, we’re clearly going to be looking to challenge top 4. Someone who can play like him will be huge in games we’re trying to open up a team like how we set up now for example. He's not a step up on our best defenders in any sense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 I would say he's no better than Lascelles or Schar in terms of defending. He's better on the ball than Lascelles and probably has more potential than both of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Be surprised if he can get any better tbh. He’s Been coached by the best coach in the world for the last few years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 He's also 26 this month. It's getting to the Dummett category of "Youngster" now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Difference between a bottom-half plodder of a left-back and a title winning CB with 39 caps for England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Despite having been coached by Pep, I still reckon Rafa would get more out of Stones if he worked with him defensively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Stones is already class TBF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Can't say I've kept track of Stones over the last couple of years, but he was rated the best centre back in England not so long ago. It might just be that he found it hard to adapt to playing for such an attack minded team rather than he just turned to shit for no reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 People turning their noses up at Stones. I like our defenders but he’d be a step above any CB we’ve had after Woodgate in memory. If we’re going to be the sort of club who are going to start spending the money, we’re clearly going to be looking to challenge top 4. Someone who can play like him will be huge in games we’re trying to open up a team like how we set up now for example. This. 100%. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 I've watched Stones a lot the last few years and although he's a good ball playing CB, he lacks focus and concentration, maybe because in general City don't have much defending to do. Also the play out of the back at any costs way that Pep plays brings out the worst in some players, Stones being one of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Stones is comfortable and quite silky on the ball but I wouldn't say his long passing or stepping forward out of defence and driving forward would be at Schar's level Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 People turning their noses up at Stones. I like our defenders but he’d be a step above any CB we’ve had after Woodgate in memory. If we’re going to be the sort of club who are going to start spending the money, we’re clearly going to be looking to challenge top 4. Someone who can play like him will be huge in games we’re trying to open up a team like how we set up now for example. Overall I’m not so sure on him defensively. He looks weak minded without the right partner and seems to become very indecisive leading to be erratic. He’s certainly not been in form for going on 18 month now also. Not sure what he does that Schar doesn’t. Judging him purely when up against us I’ve never found him to show himself in the best light for either Everton or Manchester City. I could see why Everton bought him and to a degree why Manchester City did but whether he has fulfilled that faith at either club is open to debate. I always think defenders usually improve as they age so he’s got that going for him I suppose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 I wonder if those that think Stones is a top level player, also want Rafa back? I cant imagine for a second him playing for a Benitez side. On the hand, Rafa would make a defender out of a potato. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Schar isn't a great defender but Rafa was happy with him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 CBs is our strongest area but if the takeover goes through and the new people have genuine aspirations of fighting for Champions League places, there literally isn't anywhere we can't improve the team/squad, even Dubravka (though he'd probably be the last priority). Talking in these terms you can see Lejeune and Clark moving on in the not-too-distant future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 CBs is our strongest area but if the takeover goes through and the new people have genuine aspirations of fighting for Champions League places, there literally isn't anywhere we can't improve the team/squad, even Dubravka (though he'd probably be the last priority). Talking in these terms you can see Lejeune and Clark moving on in the not-too-distant future. Yeah, I’m not talking as though I’m expecting these signings but if this lot are going to be signing the likes of Stones, it’s because they’re aiming high. They’re not going to be buying Stones to settle for top 10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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