thomas Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 13 minutes ago, Rich said: That’s enough now, come on chaps. I don't think we need a soft touch here. But if it's not to your taste, make me a mod so i can subject my online enemies to a posting hell plucked from their darkest nightmares. I believe my forum rank speaks for itself. Cordially, Thomas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 People need to step away and realise they are arguing with people on the internet about an opinion on whether one man is better at his job than another man. it doesn’t fucking matter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 hour ago, HTT II said: FFS this is tedious… Exactly. Having looked briefly at the last few pages, people really need to get a life. IMO Howe over achieved initially at Bournemouth and then under achieved and got them relegated. We all hope that he turns out to be the good manager he's reputed to be, but there is virtually no proof so far in his career to prove this one way or another. We will have a better idea by January how capable he is, and by the end of the season an even better one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 33 minutes ago, Away Toon said: Exactly. Having looked briefly at the last few pages, people really need to get a life. IMO Howe over achieved initially at Bournemouth and then under achieved and got them relegated. We all hope that he turns out to be the good manager he's reputed to be, but there is virtually no proof so far in his career to prove this one way or another. We will have a better idea by January how capable he is, and by the end of the season an even better one. It's not how it works elsewhere, maybe over here we've been late to catch on. Look at Klopp, relegated at Mainz then failed to get them re promoted but within the game there was a lot said about him, thats not mates being mates, that was professionals in the game looking at coaching etc on a different footing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Well Klopp has proved himself now. winning the league and the Champions League and though he's spent a lot not as much as some have. Pep on the other hand has spent a fortune and keeps bottling the Champions League. Nobody I think is disputing that Howe is a hard working innovative coach, the problem appears to be that his teams concede a lot and in Bournemouth's case that's what got them relegated. This should mostly be in the Howe thread because comparing managers is a pointless exercise they are hardly all batting on the same wicket. Unless it's OGS with the resources he has he should certainly be doing much better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 @54 has played a blinder here, dropping this grenade of a thread and then slipping out of the back door whilst the forum explodes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Ronny Deila now has more MLS honours with NYCFC than Patrick Vieria. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Not this thread again... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 Bump for a new season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonesJones Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 1. Pep 2. Howe Watch a Sunderland fan print screen this and say that we think we're going to finish second in the league haha deluded mags. Howe is just the man, not just a guy that knows football, a guy that has completely transformed the club and as we like to say he just gets it. I honestly don't think there's many like him. The time and energy he applies to the job puts me to shame, I'm basically Steve Bruce in comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 Guardiola Klopp Conte Eddie (haters gonna hate) Potter ETH Tuchel Rodgers Moyes Arteta Frank Viera Cooper Silva Hassenhutl Marsch Lage Lampard Parker (gone) Gerrard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 (edited) I'd go Pep Potter Klopp Conte Howe As my top five. And gerrard Hassenhuttl And Steve when I'm cleaning windows Cooper As my worst three. Edited September 6, 2022 by andycap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 Whether he is the best or not, I would not swap him for anyone listed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 (edited) Guardiola Klopp Conte Tuchel Howe Potter ETH Moyes Rodgers Arteta Hassenhutl Vieira Frank Silva Marsch Lage Lampard Gerrard Cooper Parker (gone) I wouldn’t swap Eddie Howe as a manager for any of them other than Pep or Klopp and as a person I wouldn’t swap him for anyone. Edited September 6, 2022 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 (edited) I never understand the tuchel praise. Everywhere he's been he's not done to much. Champs league with Chelsea aside. He normally falls out with most the players aswell. Edited September 6, 2022 by andycap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greydos Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 48 minutes ago, STM said: Guardiola Klopp Conte Eddie (haters gonna hate) Potter ETH Tuchel Rodgers Moyes Arteta Frank Viera Cooper Silva Hassenhutl Marsch Lage Lampard Parker (gone) Gerrard When I read down the list and saw “Frank” I was like, wtf?! Lampard being this high, why? Then the anger subsided and I slowly realised it’s the Brentford chap. My bad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 Cooper surely can’t be near the bottom, he’s a bit further back in his career but many rate him as the next Potter and Howe in the making. He’s got a decent track record to be fair… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 There's a lot of recency bias with Rodgers, but he's shown that he's a very good manager. This is just based on what they've done rather than potential. Potter and Howe could potentially be a lot higher, I just don't know yet. Klopp Guardiola Conte Tuchel Rodgers Moyes Arteta Potter Howe Frank Then managers that I don't feel like I've seen enough of to truly judge, like ETH, Vieira. Then: Silva Lage Gerrard Lampard Hassenhutl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 Howe and Potter should both be above Arteta for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGRM Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 I'd go for: Guardiola Klopp Conte Tuchel Potter Howe Rodgers ETH Moyes Arteta Frank Vieira Hassenhutl Silva Lage Marsch Gerrard Cooper Lampard Parker (gone) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 Pep - not won a CL in over a decade despite spending hundreds of billions at City and Bayern. He has the most expensive squad in the World at City. They play good football and all that, but overall I don't find him that impressive given his lack of CL success. Potter is the one who is impressing me the most atm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 Moyes is very underrated like, presumably because his football's not pleasing on the eye. His achievements with Everton and West Ham are really impressive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 It's incredibly difficult to list them because you could look at it in a few ways. Trophies? Current club? Previous jobs? Potential? There's two things I'm sure about... Howe is mint and Gerrard is complete shit. The exact polar opposites in what I would want in a manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon No9 Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 1 hour ago, HTT II said: Guardiola Klopp Conte Tuchel Howe Potter ETH Moyes Rodgers Arteta Hassenhutl Vieira Frank Silva Marsch Lage Lampard Gerrard Cooper Parker (gone) I wouldn’t swap Eddie Howe as a manager for any of them other than Pep or Klopp and as a person I wouldn’t swap him for anyone. Wouldn't swap Howe for Klopp tbh. Can't stand him. Think he's a disgrace as a person and wouldn't like him to represent our club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 Just now, Kid Icarus said: Moyes is very underrated like, presumably because his football's not pleasing on the eye. His achievements with Everton and West Ham are really impressive. Yes but do you completely disregard what happened in between? That's why it's so tricky. I like Moyes, he's actually grown on me as a bloke and I've seen some of his coaching videos online, which are decent. I do think there is a ceiling to his style of football though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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