Dr Venkman Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 2 hours ago, gjohnson said: Think the sea-horses should go....we're not close enough to the sea for a maritime reference to be particularly relevant now that there's no shipping of coal along the Tyne. I love our current crest, and wouldn't change it, but if we have to then maybe we could have something like the Cityscape goalie top from 96/97 Agreed. Replace them with two headsets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 (edited) Our Club Crest is based on our City Coat of Arms. Our ancient City Coat of Arms has Seahorses on it, and that is not going to change. As the principal Football Club of our Region that also primarily represents our great City around the world, then our Club Crest should (in my opinion) continue to represent "Club and City" combined, as it does now. The below explains the City of Newcastle upon Tyne Coat of Arms . . . The coat of arms for the city of Newcastle upon Tyne has been in use since at least the fourteenth century. The earliest surviving example of the three silver castles on a red shield, dating from about 1400, is in the window on the north side of the Chancel in St. John's Church. It has three castles, supported by two seahorses. At the top there is a lion holding the golden staff of St. George's pennant. At the bottom is the motto Fortiter Defendit Triumphans, meaning Triumphing by Brave Defence. Both the supporters and crest were added to the shield by grant of William Flower, Norroy King of Arms, in 1575. The blazon - The formal description of the coat of arms, known as a blazon, is: Arms: Gules three Castles triple towered Argent. Crest: On a Wreath of the Colours a Castle as in the Arms issuant therefrom a demi Lion guardant supporting a Flagstaff Or flying therefrom a forked Pennon of the Arms of Saint George. Supporters: On either side a Sea Horse proper crined and finned Or. What the coat of arms means: The castle motif goes back to earliest times. Originally the town took its name from the "New Castle" built by order of Robert Curthose, eldest son of William the Conqueror, in 1080 and a castle was depicted on the twelfth century common seal. The supporters, two mythical sea-horses shaded in green with gold manes, fins and tails, are a reminder that Newcastle is a seaport. The motto, Fortiter Defendit Triumphans (Triumphing by Brave Defence) was adopted during the Civil War, following the stubborn defense of the town against the Scots in 1644. Edited November 16, 2021 by manorpark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Yorkie said: It'd be nice to see all four of them emblazoned along the top of the East Stand, two either side of the reinstated classic letters. Fucking love this idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 51 minutes ago, Robster said: Fucking love this idea. Agree. Get onto Keith to get it sorted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 The current one by lightyears. Never change it. Anyone suggesting we should change it is more than likely on the register. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 I like them all. Maybe have a third kit in the future and cycle the various clubs crests on it each season. I doubt the rules would allow this in the Prem but maybe if we ever get back to playing in Europe again... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Our current one is so good that the Mackems tried their own unsuccessful attempt to copy it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoreboard82 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Voted for the current one but the castle keep badge has a very nostalgic place in my heart. Suppose it was out in my early toon supporting years, although we were awful for most of those years. Was worn by KK in his 1st season so it wasn't all bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 6 hours ago, Tomato Deuce said: I voted for the circular castle keep one…give that one a modern tweak and it’s a winner. Absolutely this. Definitely what I hope we change it to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Voted present badge, but like the Castle Keep one as well and would welcome changing to that for a couple of years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 (edited) I prefer having a seahorse on the badge than a magpie. Whatever questions about the decision to choose a seahorse centuries ago, a seahorse is a tie to the city, whereas a magpie is just a tie to the colour of our shirts. It's fun when a magpie lands on the pitch or something, but with some exceptions (e.g. the big monty mag banner) I tend to find other club's fans associate us with magpies more than we do - e.g. I'd never say I'm a 'mag' whereas other fans refer to us as that. (I don't say 'come on seahorses' either like, but find more meaning in the symbol) Don't hate it like, but don't have much attachment to it - and at least that badge has the castle on it. Edited November 16, 2021 by Inferior Acuña Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Rugby club had it. Looks shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Inferior Acuña said: I prefer having a seahorse on the badge than a magpie. Whatever questions about the decision to choose a seahorse centuries ago, a seahorse is a tie to the city, whereas a magpie is just a tie to the colour of our shirts. It's fun when a magpie lands on the pitch or something, but with some exceptions (e.g. the big monty mag banner) I tend to find other club's fans associate us with magpies more than we do - e.g. I'd never say I'm a 'mag' or 'come on the mags'. Everywhere we go, Magpie ranger and other chants. Oh when the Mags etc? Edited November 16, 2021 by Doc bad memory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Disco said: Rugby club had it. Looks shite. Aye, that's definitely shite like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Any idea why the red cross on blue background on the flag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 The modified badge on the previous page is pure taste. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
number37 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 15 minutes ago, madras said: Any idea why the red cross on blue background on the flag. From what I've found over the years from little bits of research, which may be completely wrong, is that it was just a genuine error that has stuck. No one knows why. It shouldn't be blue, should be white of course, but is now simply one of those little quirks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, number37 said: From what I've found over the years from little bits of research, which may be completely wrong, is that it was just a genuine error that has stuck. No one knows why. It shouldn't be blue, should be white of course, but is now simply one of those little quirks! I had heard it was so the flag wasn't Red and White, nothing definitive though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
number37 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 minute ago, madras said: I had heard it was so the flag wasn't Red and White, nothing definitive though. Aye, perhaps. At least it's provided minutes of wonder and debate decades later! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, pedro111 said: 8 hours ago, Novocastrian said: As someone who has sailed up the Tyne on a Royal Navy destroyer I respectfully beg to differ. Exactly. To say Newcastle is not close enough to the sea is just laughable. I'm sure I read once that one particular year in the mid 20th Century, the Tyne shipyards produced more ships than the entirety of the USA. But aye, let's cast our sea connection aside! The city and the region have much more connection with the sea than just coal and shipyards as well. Fishing and as a trade port have been important since Roman times. We've got a statue of Neptune on the quayside. Used to have a fella walk round dressed up as Neptune at the fishquay festival having pictures taken with people. It doesnt need to be in your face relevant now for it to be able to be a representation of your history. Edited November 16, 2021 by Super Duper Branko Strupar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: The city and the region have much more connection with the sea than just coal and shipyards as well. Fishing and as a trade port have been important since Roman times. We've got a statue of Neptune on the quayside. Used to have a fella walk round dressed up as Neptune at the fishquay festival having pictures taken with people. It doesnt need to be in your face relevant now for it to be able to be a representation of your history. We also have the Tyne god, a made up mythical god like creature covered in coal and fish and the likes. I'd say we are intrinsically linked to the sea like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 10 hours ago, gjohnson said: Yes really. We're not exactly Grimsby, or even Sunderland where the ground in only 1 or 2 miles from the sea. Historically it may have been relevant with coal shipping and ship building but they're long gone. Now Newcastle does not rely on being a coastal city at all Eh..? You've got huge oil service businesses that manufacture and ships subsea umbilicals, flexible pipes and a ton of other subsea structures and minor components/services to all major oil companies around the world. I'm sure there's a lot of other stuff that I am not aware of as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhoywhonder Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 It's right there in one of our most popular chants. "En and E and Double-you Sea....", tbh I never got it until now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dazzanufc1892 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 I like our current one but it’s so complicated for marketing. A castle with a black and white shield is easy. we are aiming to be bigger so the older one I actually prefer doesn’t work as it says football club. Teams like Man Utd removed that to be more than just a football team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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