Jinky Jim Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Prophet said: When there was ten games to go I checked and only two teams had done a "great escape". That was Leicester and Wigan. Neither caught a team that was on 30+ points at the same stage either. Not that I think Burnley will escape….but there’s always a first time…..Remember not that long ago the following statistic was floating around the media “ No team has failed to win their first 13 games and survived relegation”….just saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Jinky Jim said: Not that I think Burnley will escape….but there’s always a first time…..Remember not that long ago the following statistic was floating around the media “ No team has failed to win their first 13 games and survived relegation”….just saying. Very true, but we had a new manager and a transfer window to go. Burnley need to change season long momentum at the drop of a hat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 22 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: I don’t think they will. Just saying there’s instances where a club has come from nowhere to win something daft like 5 in 8 and stayed up. I hope they do, as if they did I honestly think Everton would go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Very true, but we had a new manager and a transfer window to go. Burnley need to change season long momentum at the drop of a hat. And new owners that basically was our escape route. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Jinky Jim said: Not that I think Burnley will escape….but there’s always a first time…..Remember not that long ago the following statistic was floating around the media “ No team has failed to win their first 13 games and survived relegation”….just saying. It wouldn't even be the first time. They are 4 points from safety with 8 games left, Id guess a few have done that. As far as we are concerned we are 10 points from relegation with 8 games (chasing team) remaining. I wonder how many have gone down from that situation ? Edited April 10, 2022 by madras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky Jim Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Very true, but we had a new manager and a transfer window to go. Burnley need to change season long momentum at the drop of a hat. Good point. However most seasons do see strange finishes to the season…..doubt Burnley have it in them to alter their destiny though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 Just now, Jinky Jim said: Good point. However most seasons do see strange finishes to the season…..doubt Burnley have it in them to alter their destiny though. A team dramatically altering their PPG in the last 10 games is a rarity. It does happen, but it's very few and far between. Normally it requires a team in the bottom three to maintain/slightly increase their PPG and a side above them to have a catastrophic finish. If Burnley even slightly increase their PPG to one, the only team they can catch is Everton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Optimistic Nut said: It’s happened plenty of times. Wigan, Fulham, Leicester, Sunderland… Exactly. I said outside chance. It's still unlikely. But their run in is poor enough that it's possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 (edited) To clarify I think there is an outside chance Burnley could pick up enough points to overhaul Everton, but everyone else is out of reach. Edited April 10, 2022 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 20 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: Exactly. I said outside chance. It's still unlikely. But their run in is poor enough that it's possible. For what it's worth, at this stage (30 games): Fulham on 23 points overhauled Reading on 28 points. Wigan on 25 points overhauled Blackburn on 28 points. Sunderland on 25 points overhauled Norwich on 28 points. Leicester on 22 overhauled Hull on 28. In those four scenarios, either those four teams escapes had already started (Leicester, Wigan) or they weren't that remarkable (Fulham, Sunderland). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 Yeah but all those teams who they overhauled also obviously got points too. I am hypothesizing a final total that they could theoretically reach - and underlining that we may still need another 2-3 points to be safe. Which we should obviously achieve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 (edited) Been a great weekend for Everton but I think Burnley can still catch them. Leicester, Liverpool, Chelsea, Leicester next 4 games for Everton. Easily could be 1-2 points there. If Burnley can win 2 out of next 4, it's very much on. Edited April 10, 2022 by samptime29 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Jesse Pinkman said: Why are people saying Burnley are relegated now? They have ridiculously easy fixtures. They won’t catch us but I can still definitely see them catching Everton considering Everton has some hard fixtures. They just lost comfortably to the worst team in the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 (edited) I thought after the Everton-Man U game that it would be it for Burnley if they didn’t beat Norwich. From the massive high of beating Everton and going within touching distance, to seeing us, Leeds and in particular Everton beating Man Utd must have been killers mentally for them seeing how much work they have to do to get back within it. They’ll have been thinking before the Everton game that they could be out of the bottom 3 today, instead they’re still 4 adrift and now have 2 games fewer to close the gap having played two of the worst 4 teams in the league. Edited April 10, 2022 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 I think its between Burnley and Everton now, everyone else has pulled away. such a shame Man Utd bottled their game against Everton yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoob Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 Shocked to see Burnley still in the bottom three after they sold us a donkey and bought the finest striker the league has ever seen in January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 Burnley aren’t getting three wins and a draw more than us in 8 games. Aston Villa are Burnley’s wild card they haven’t played them yet and Villa have nothing to play for. Everton and Leeds are still in their reach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 We’re playing Sunday (Leicester), Wednesday (Palace), Saturday (Norwich) next week. That’ll be tough on the old legs/ injury front. If we can pull out a win or two then I’d say that’s 100% us safe. Big week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 We’ll be 10th by the end of that run man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 They are all winnable games but winning them all would be tough and mightily impressive. 2 wins or even a win and 2 draws would be fine and that would mean we can go into the tougher games against City and Liverpoll with nothing to fear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 7 points from those 3 would be superb, none of them will be a doddle but each one individually is very winnable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 It’s a little step up from when we had Brentford, Brighton & Southampton in a short period but down from Chelsea, Everton & Spurs. Nice little test to see where we slot in as we are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 4 points at a minimum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 I think the two at home are eminently winnable. Norwich away looks winnable on paper but could go either way in reality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 Norwich are absolutely pony and we really should be beating them. Palace are Leicester carry plenty of attacking threat, but both struggle to win games on the road (three each I think it is). Winning all three is a big ask, but going unbeaten is a possibility (with a win or two in there). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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