The Relegationometer™ (2023/24)

[Geordie Ahmed]

10 hours ago, Pilko said:

To be fair to Gary O'Neil, everyone and their dog had Bournemouth nailed to go down when he took over there and he's steered them to safety with games to spare.

 

They've still taken some hammerings but he's done well to get the points in early.

He's done a brilliant job, especially when you consider the circumstances he got it

 

They got battered 9-0 and Parker said they are shite and done

 

Ouattara was a good signing for them in January 

[La Parka]

Leeds are beyond frail. They have 0 midfield presence and absence of any competent defenders. They are surely doomed with Southampton. 

 

I hope everton get gone because it's funny. 

[Superior Acuña]

I think the league's definitely better for having Leeds in it, it'd be a shame if they went again. They looked rubbish from what I saw them against Leicester.

[GeordieDazzler]

My mate from Leeds reckons they might hit 80+ conceded goals. He think’s they are gone. 

[gbandit]

4 hours ago, Geordie Ahmed said:

He's done a brilliant job, especially when you consider the circumstances he got it

 

They got battered 9-0 and Parker said they are shite and done

 

Ouattara was a good signing for them in January 

Parker may still go on to have a decent managerial career, who knows, but calling out his players in that way was pathetic. To have them show him up in this way says a lot about them and even more about Parker 

[Guest]

4 hours ago, Superior Acuña said:

I think the league's definitely better for having Leeds in it, it'd be a shame if they went again. They looked rubbish from what I saw them against Leicester.

 

I don't think they offer anything. 

[Superior Acuña]

7 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

I don't think they offer anything. 

I think they have one of the best supports and grounds in the league. I also like to see all the major northern cities have a team in there and particularly Leeds as the closest one to us of that cluster. 

[teohgk]

Nothing against Leicester, but hope they relegated, increase our chance of signing Maddison

[Nucasol]

5 hours ago, gbandit said:

Parker may still go on to have a decent managerial career, who knows, but calling out his players in that way was pathetic. To have them show him up in this way says a lot about them and even more about Parker 

Didn’t he get sacked after a dozen games in his next job?

[WillDanceForChocolate]

On 30/04/2023 at 18:59, Yorkie said:

 

Absolutely. Still keen to hear @WillDanceForChocolate's take on their mini-resurgence after the despondency earlier this calendar year. 

 

He's done well but let's remember this is a season like no other at the bottom of the Premier League. Never before have we seen so many sackings and I'm not sure the last time the battle included that many teams so close together for so long.

 

Steve Bruce kept you up but I'm pretty sure he wasn't too rated here. Ok, O'Neil isn't Bruce but even though Gary has done brilliantly to keep us up there are still major issues.

 

After the awful run, he must have accepted he had to evolve tactically because things started to change. He still sometimes has the habit of drawing up the drawbridge on 60 minutes to an excessive extent if we have a goal lead but not as badly as before where all forward running ambition was abandoned and we simply invited the other team to camp in our box.

 

So he is learning, but that's part of the issue. He's making the mistakes rookie managers make in one of the toughest leagues in the world where the opposition are usually ruthless. The chaos at the bottom has helped him massively there.

 

Let's take a situation that a manager can influence more than almost any other on a pitch. Set pieces. It's a situation where he can set the roles and organise them. We've let in something like five more than any other Premier League team from set pieces this season. Nothing has changed in how we approach it all season, even though we let in two more a week ago against West Ham. In the win against Spurs, before our injury time winner they had a simple chance from a corner to score and win it but Richarlison fluffed it. That for me rings massive alarm bells that a manager has failed so badly at one of the few situations where he can almost directly control his players. In another season, let in five more from set pieces than any other team and you're relegated.

 

That's some of the bad. As for the good, well he seems to be incredible at motivating the players. He also seems to be able to get the players to draw a line under bad results and move on quickly which is a great skill to have in our position. After being dogmatic about things for a long time, he's become more adaptable tactically and so is learning. He has finally accepted sometimes we need to attack teams and can't always be on the defensive which is a relief.

 

The question is, will he learn quickly enough for next season when I'd guess things won't be as messy near the bottom? My suspicion is no he won't but I'd obviously be happy if he surprised me. I'm often wrong about things in football and so will have no issue with saying I called it badly in twelve months if he's still in place and we're safe again.

 

As for those saying that he should get Manager of the Season, they're pretty laughable. He's done well after a terrible start, but set against a division that has set fire to itself in the bottom half.

[maze]

The bottom 5 has som really tough fixtures coming up. This can get very interesting.

 

soton is f’ed obv. 

 

 

Edited May 1, 2023 by maze

[Guest]

Just now, maze said:

The bottom 5 has som really tough fixtures coming up. This can get very interesting.

Last day shootout

[54]

Fuck me it's tight down there..

 

 

[SUPERTOON]

Genuinely can’t call it. Absolutely huge game for forest at home to Southampton this weekend.

[Paullow]

Everton - 8/13
Leeds - 8/15
Forest - 8/11
Leicester - 2/1

[jack j]

If everton are still in touch last game of the season then I think they'll stay up

 

Forest and Leeds I think will go

[TomYam]

Too close to call, but I agree that Everton will likely stay up if still in touch come the final day - and, sadly, I'm certain they will. 

[midds]

Decent chance that Everton only get 2 more points this season. They're getting nothing from City or Brighton, not sure they're good enough to beat Wolves away and Bournemouth will have nothing to lose and have zero pressure on the last day

[Hanshithispantz]

West Ham's next 3 are brutal and then they play Leeds and Leicester for their final 2.

 

Bring Paqueta home.

[samptime29]

Nee idea who is ganning down like. Tight AF.

[Deuce]

GD might save Leicester at the end of the day. 

[Scotty66]

West Ham squeeky bum time. 

 

Game in hand but they still have Man City, Man Utd and Brentford. Then two huge games against Leeds and Leicester as well as still playing in the semi finals of Europe. 

They play Leeds just 3 days after their second leg! 

[Paullow]

West Ham probably just need 1 more point, if any at all, given their goal difference. If they did get 1 point then Everton would need 7 from 4 games, Forest 6 and Leeds 6 from 4, and even Leicester 4 from 4, and while the latter could happen, it's hard to see 2 of the former 3 reaching those targets with the games they have left. If there's a surprise win or two in the next couple of games like Everton beating Brighton or Man City, Leeds beating Man City or us, or even Forest beating Chelsea then they may sweat a bit if they lost their next 2, but they are a model 33/1 for a reason, despite on paper not looking massively secure.

[Miercoles]

What a crazy fucking season.

 

Can't remember one in the last few years with such involved scenarios, usually it's just "well, they're fucked" at this point.

 

Once again, very happy to not be involved.

[Ace]

This season feels like when we went down under big Al where there are 5 teams who probably deserve to go down.