Leicester City 4 - 0 Newcastle United (12/12/2021)

[MrRaspberryJam]

Well at least the gap didn't widen. 

[Menace]

17 minutes ago, The Bonk said:

 

Reminds me of a present day Stephen Ireland.  

Christ I forgot he played for us you know 

[The Bonk]

Me too, goes to show how much of an impact he had.  

[Fantail Breeze]

The worst part of today is we didn’t look like scoring against a side shipping goals left, right and centre with a makeshift back four and a CM playing CB.

 

For all of our huff and puff, nobody looked like scoring.

 

Was also an issue against Norwich & Burnley. We stumbled across a goal in those games rather than making one.

 

Think we could still be playing and Leicester would have a clean sheet. 

[SUPERTOON]

10 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:

The worst part of today is we didn’t look like scoring against a side shipping goals left, right and centre with a makeshift back four and a CM playing CB.

 

For all of our huff and puff, nobody looked like scoring.

 

Was also an issue against Norwich & Burnley. We stumbled across a goal in those games rather than making one.

 

Think we could still be playing and Leicester would have a clean sheet. 

Still certain we are staying up ?

[Tyne81]

Soft penalty where Maddison clearly dives into it, but Lascelles lazily lumped a leg out which often gives the benefit of doubt to the attacker. We slumped like a relegation ready side second half and shipped a few easy easy goals to boot. Going be a long slog this season even with new players next month.

[Fantail Breeze]

3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Still certain we are staying up ?

 

We absolutely should.

 

The poor decisions by Howe (not dropping Lascelles, Shelvey and/or Willock) and the potential farce with the January window may put us into trouble though.

 

I’m expecting them to learn and sort it.

[SUPERTOON]

Just now, Fantail Breeze said:

 

We absolutely should.

 

The poor decisions by Howe (not dropping Lascelles, Shelvey and/or Willock) and the potential farce with the January window may put us into trouble though.

 

I’m expecting them to learn and sort it.

I admire your optimism, I personally don’t see him dropping lascelles, the midfield issue is so blindingly obvious now he must surely change it. 

[Thiago]

I'm fast thinking we can get away with 4-2-3-1 at home against sides near us because the pitch feels tighter and they panic a bit, but long term I think 3-4-3 is our only hope. I say that for the following reasons. 

 

- The CBs are a bad collection of weaknesses meaning that no pairing is really well suited.

- The midfield has a similar issue whereby it's going to be Shelvey + 1 but that one is either Joe Willock who is so clearly an attacking midfielder in the mold of Nolan or Isaac Hayden who is clearly a defensive midfielder with very limited technical ability. 

- The attack has an abundance of speed and varying levels of skill, so we almost need to invite teams onto us to open the space in their half but not in a 4-4-2 4-2-3-1 because that leaves gaps on our end as the likes of ASM/Wilson can't be defending. 

 

The ultimate blessing is that January arrives soon. If that silver lining can't get you soundly to sleep, just remember we're in a better place ownership wise than we were six month ago. 

[The Prophet]

If he drops Shelvey and Willock, who are the alternatives? I get moving to a midfield three, but depressingly they're our two most able midfielders. It's not a poor decision at all.

[Fantail Breeze]

Just now, The Prophet said:

If he drops Shelvey and Willock, who are the alternatives? I get moving to a midfield three, but depressingly they're our two most able midfielders. It's not a poor decision at all.

 

Only one of the two can play in the middle, playing both means we basically have no midfield.

 

Repeatedly said it but Hayden has to start, or a new CDM arriving on 1 January. 

[Heron]

For me, in the upcoming games I think I'd be aiming to shut up shop a canny bit like. We simply cannot open up or it could demolish any positivity and semblance of unity within the team.

 

I'll be honest, I really don't know what's best with our squad. I don't see any real obvious qualities on a team level, only as individuals.

 

Something like;

 

Dubravka

 

RWB Manquillo

CB Lascelles

CB Schar

CB Fernandez

LWB Lewis

 

CM Hayden

CM Shelvey

CM Ritchie

 

CF Wilson

CF Almiron

 

In all honesty though I find it very difficult to pick. That midfield would perhapd not be very dynamic but Ritchie brings us some leadership and that's needed on the pitch at the moment. Also, if Lewis and Manquillo push on I feel Hayden and Ritchie could slot in to take up a defensive role as cover. By putting Miggy up top, he has a chance to eun the channels and get them turned around and combined with Wilson's determination, pressure and leadership might just alleviate some pressure.

 

It's sad that this is what it's become, but aye, ideally I wouldn't play like 8 of them.

[Alberto2005]

2 minutes ago, Heron said:

For me, in the upcoming games I think I'd be aiming to shut up shop a canny bit like. We simply cannot open up or it could demolish any positivity and semblance of unity within the team.

 

I'll be honest, I really don't know what's best with our squad. I don't see any real obvious qualities on a team level, only as individuals.

 

Something like;

 

Dubravka

 

RWB Manquillo

CB Lascelles

CB Schar

CB Fernandez

LWB Lewis

 

CM Hayden

CM Shelvey

CM Ritchie

 

CF Wilson

CF Almiron

 

In all honesty though I find it very difficult to pick. That midfield would perhapd not be very dynamic but Ritchie brings us some leadership and that's needed on the pitch at the moment. Also, if Lewis and Manquillo push on I feel Hayden and Ritchie could slot in to take up a defensive role as cover. By putting Miggy up top, he has a chance to eun the channels and get them turned around and combined with Wilson's determination, pressure and leadership might just alleviate some pressure.

 

It's sad that this is what it's become, but aye, ideally I wouldn't play like 8 of them.

What the hell is that.

[Fantail Breeze]

Dubravka

 

RWB Manquillo

CB Schar

CB Fernandez

LWB Lewis

 

CM Hayden

CM Shelvey

 

RAM ASM

CAM Big Jow

LAM Almiron

 

CF Wilson

[Jackie Broon]

12 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

If he drops Shelvey and Willock, who are the alternatives? I get moving to a midfield three, but depressingly they're our two most able midfielders. It's not a poor decision at all.

 

Shelvey shouldn't be dropped, but he needs a more defensive midfielder alongside / behind him. Willock should only be played in a more attacking midfield role, or behind Wilson, he's just not suited to playing in a two man midfield, or three man midfield without a more defensive midfielder in there. Hayden, Hendrick or even Schar could be options until January.

 

 

[Heron]

10 minutes ago, Alberto2005 said:

What the hell is that.

 

I honestly don't know who we have with the defensive qualities to shut up shop, but we absolutely need to. Happy to see alternatives...

 

ASM doesn't do the dirty work and Almiron is wasted out wide. Our CM's are lacking defensively and our CBs are overly exposed at present and not good enough, so there is some method to the madness.

 

That's purely for our next two.

 

Bring on your ASM or Willock or whoever if it's necessary after an hour.

 

The only one I'd feel shite on in that would be Joelinton, he's probably the second name on the sheet atm after Dubravka. 

[Heron]

11 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:

Dubravka

 

RWB Manquillo

CB Schar

CB Fernandez

LWB Lewis

 

CM Hayden

CM Shelvey

 

RAM ASM

CAM Big Jow

LAM Almiron

 

CF Wilson

This is decent. I'd probably start ASM at Liverpool me though, personally. 

[Alberto2005]

15 minutes ago, Heron said:

 

I honestly don't know who we have with the defensive qualities to shut up shop, but we absolutely need to. Happy to see alternatives...

 

ASM doesn't do the dirty work and Almiron is wasted out wide. Our CM's are lacking defensively and our CBs are overly exposed at present and not good enough, so there is some method to the madness.

 

That's purely for our next two.

 

Bring on your ASM or Willock or whoever if it's necessary after an hour.

 

The only one I'd feel shite on in that would be Joelinton, he's probably the second name on the sheet atm after Dubravka. 

The defence you suggested was fine if we were playing a back 5.

 

But playing Matt Ritchie in central midfield is silly when he's never played that role in his life.

 

You can't drop ASM, he might not work as hard as other players but along with Wilson he's the only match winner we have.

 

Almiron isn't a striker, maybe as a no 10.

 

I'd keep it as a back 4 for now and try 3 in midfield 2 holding with Willock Infront of them.

 

 

 

[Kid Icarus]

Glenn Murray reckons it's a pen and that Maddison didn't jump into Lascelles. Worm brains.

[Rafalove]

1 hour ago, Menace said:

Christ I forgot he played for us you know 

 

Think he said no too long ago that when we signed him the club wouldn’t let him play because it would cost more or something 

[Kanj]

We were shite today. Move on. Think we all got caught up in finally winning a match and some positivity. It’s going to be a long haul, thank fuck for the Jan window and hope we can announce deals quickly. 

[et tu brute]

2 hours ago, Fantail Breeze said:

The worst part of today is we didn’t look like scoring against a side shipping goals left, right and centre with a makeshift back four and a CM playing CB.

 

For all of our huff and puff, nobody looked like scoring.

 

Was also an issue against Norwich & Burnley. We stumbled across a goal in those games rather than making one.

 

Think we could still be playing and Leicester would have a clean sheet. 

The problem to me (and I appreciate that people have a soft spot for some of the players I’m going to mention), but we have three players in Max, Almiron and Joelington who cost over 80 million and yet their actual success rate on product created and goals scored is actually very poor. You then also have a non existent central midfield and an atrocious defence. I don’t get this thing about our squad being better than what it’s showing, it’s a very poor squad in my mind and will take a few years to replace nearly all of the players.

[Raconteur]

3 hours ago, Heron said:

This is decent. I'd probably start ASM at Liverpool me though, personally. 

I feel like we should start a Liverpool match thread, but TAA v ASM is asking for a five goal thrashing

[St1pe]

Still absolutely livid VAR spent about 10 minutes looking at our blatant penalty against Norwich yet the most obvious dive I’ve seen to win one against us since Salah wasn’t even looked at. 
 

I’m not claiming an agenda or VAR being the problem here rather the standard of refereeing is absolutely awful at times. 

[Heron]

7 hours ago, Alberto2005 said:

The defence you suggested was fine if we were playing a back 5.

 

But playing Matt Ritchie in central midfield is silly when he's never played that role in his life.

 

You can't drop ASM, he might not work as hard as other players but along with Wilson he's the only match winner we have.

 

Almiron isn't a striker, maybe as a no 10.

 

I'd keep it as a back 4 for now and try 3 in midfield 2 holding with Willock Infront of them.

 

 

 

That is my intention (Almiron like a 10) or on the shoulder of the last man. Also to have 5 at the back.

 

You absolutely can drop ASM. He's a luxury in games such as these and one we cannot afford.