Ben Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, KaKa said: You really still don't get it, with all that's been said about the matter?! TBF, I'd like to see a clear explanation of the actual figures Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, KaKa said: You really still don't get it, with all that's been said about the matter?! nah, can't be fucked with looking at spreadsheets to understand psr. Nobody has really provided a reasonable explanation of how we were bidding £60m plus for Guehi in the summer and now we've got nowt despite sales. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, Ben said: TBF, I'd like to see a clear explanation of the actual figures Okay, I'm sure the club will be happy to share. Get in touch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 I assume it’s all part of future spend in summer and us being proactive with sales for once. No point keeping players when they’re not really contributing to the season in a positive way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, Smal said: nah, can't be fucked with looking at spreadsheets to understand psr. Nobody has really provided a reasonable explanation of how we were bidding £60m plus for Guehi in the summer and now we've got nowt despite sales. It doesn't need looking at spreadsheets. The reason has been mentioned numerous times in the last few days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 As long as Krath is fit I’m alright with this. I don’t think he’s remotely influential at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunk Moreland Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, Sibierski said: I assume it’s all part of future spend in summer and us being proactive with sales for once. No point keeping players when they’re not really contributing to the season in a positive way. Exactly. I remember Mitchell talking about 'clearing the decks' when he came in at Moncao. Moving on Almiron and potentially Kelly and Trippier for reasonable fees would represent a step in that direction for us. It's exactly what we need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 12 minutes ago, Smal said: nah, can't be fucked with looking at spreadsheets to understand psr. Nobody has really provided a reasonable explanation of how we were bidding £60m plus for Guehi in the summer and now we've got nowt despite sales. It's been explained a thousand times. If we'd bought big in the summer, someone like Gordon, Bruno or Isak would have left to balance things. There were very strong rumours about Gordon to Liverpool, and Bruno had his release clause. We've been over this a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Can't believe we will get much in terms of a fee but the wages will be freed up. Leo Shahar might be seeing first team minutes sooner than we want lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 So we can only buy after 30 June this year, but we can't spend that much without first selling a purple because we miss out on European football and can't generate enough cash through commercial activity because of APT rules and the fact we miss out on extra income from European football. We need a bigger better squad to qualify for European football which would generate better commercial income but are restricted because of PSR. Fuckin shite this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Hope saying Galatasaray will come with a bid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Summer would be the right time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Chris_R said: It's been explained a thousand times. If we'd bought big in the summer, someone like Gordon, Bruno or Isak would have left to balance things. There were very strong rumours about Gordon to Liverpool, and Bruno had his release clause. We've been over this a lot. yeah, I’ve heard this explanation and it doesn’t make much sense to me. Gordon was going to be sold but we sold Minteh and Anderson instead to solve that one. The Gordon rumours had gone died down before we started bidding for Guehi. Was similar with Isak who wasn’t really linked strongly anywhere, but there were tenuous links to Liverpool around the same time as the Gordon links. This was all during the Euros. We were still going after Guehi in August. Likewise Bruno’s release clause had expired long before we were bidding for Guehi. I think it’s probably more likely we that we have to get maximum value for money with our signings, and that’s hard to do in January so we’re just not bothering with incomings. Outgoings are fine because we can take advantage of some desperate teams. The problem I have with that approach is that we need some quality to come in this season. Everyone will want out come summer if we don’t have Europe again. Edited February 2 by Smal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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80 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 27 minutes ago, Smal said: yeah, I’ve heard this explanation and it doesn’t make much sense to me. Gordon was going to be sold but we sold Minteh and Anderson instead to solve that one. The Gordon rumours had gone died down before we started bidding for Guehi. Was similar with Isak who wasn’t really linked strongly anywhere, but there were tenuous links to Liverpool around the same time as the Gordon links. This was all during the Euros. We were still going after Guehi in August. Likewise Bruno’s release clause had expired long before we were bidding for Guehi. I think it’s probably more likely we that we have to get maximum value for money with our signings, and that’s hard to do in January so we’re just not bothering with incomings. Outgoings are fine because we can take advantage of some desperate teams. The problem I have with that approach is that we need some quality to come in this season. Everyone will want out come summer if we don’t have Europe again. It's not exactly right, but think of PSR as a 12 month long game. And the idea is you have to balance the books by the end of that 12 months to win the game. The Bruno/Gordon/Minteh stuff was all part of the previous game, which finished on June 30th last year. Then a new game started fresh in July in which we wanted to buy Guehi right at the beginning, giving us nearly 12 months to balance the books again before the game finished. That's basically the idea of why we tried to spend £60m in the summer but not now. Spend it today and realistically we've got a month in June to sell sell sell and avoid losing the game, which is tight. Not that I completely believe this explanation myself, mind. I think other ideas remain possible, too. None of them seriously involve us spending £60m this month though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Can't resist the thread title tinkering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 So that's Kelly and possibly Trippier leaving after Eddie said there'd be no more outgoings after Miggy in his presser on Friday. Makes you wonder if he's telling the truth about incomings too... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 I would rather have a focused summer. Than a last minute January signing just for the sake of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 I would rather have no players. Than no PSR headroom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weznufc Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 7 minutes ago, Scoot said: So that's Kelly and possibly Trippier leaving after Eddie said there'd be no more outgoings after Miggy in his presser on Friday. Makes you wonder if he's telling the truth about incomings too... He's definitely telling the truth about incomings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 5 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: I would rather have no players. Than no PSR headroom. PSR Headroom can play on the right. "Money to spend in the summer" can cover CB and "We could get better value from sponsorship in the future" could be Isak's backup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 8 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: I would rather have no players. Than no PSR headroom. We know what we arrrrreeeee. PSR Champions. You’ll never sing that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Let go now for something, or keep and lose for nothing. Not a great situation, and lays bare just how ridiculous the rules are, we have money to spend and can't spend it, football is so fucking twisted to keep some cunts in the money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HayDen Traces Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 If the offer is decent I think we accept. Its possibly the last window Tripps fetches a half decent fee. Shite though that we have to wheel and deal like this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 5 minutes ago, HayDen Traces said: If the offer is decent I think we accept. Its possibly the last window Tripps fetches a half decent fee. Shite though that we have to wheel and deal like this It’s a gamble but with Krafu back and he can do a job at RB it may pay off if it increases our spend capacity to rebuild strong in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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