The Bonk Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Aiston said: Very disappointing game from him, a rare one mind. Should have been taken off set pieces after the hour mark though, fucking awful from him today on them. 1 hour ago, Sima said: Had an absolute shitter. It happens though and he’ll get over it. 1 hour ago, Klaus said: Aye, floated everything straight at Meslier. Shit today but so we're a few others 47 minutes ago, Newcastle Fan said: Poor game from him today, but it goes a long way to show how far we've come when his poor game is a game we dominated and kept a clean sheet in. 34 minutes ago, Minhosa said: Deliveries so bad today he could’ve got a job for Evri. Rare one in fairness but utter shite today. Got done by their little winger in the first half too. All in all, one to forget. Statistically he was actually our best player on the pitch. Of the 7 “big chances” we created, he had 4 of them. He also had more of the ball (102 touches) compared to Bruno (77 touches) who was just behind Tripps and created nothing offensively. Said this in the game thread, but Meslier is a very active keeper with 4 high claims, 1 successful run out and punch clearance. What should have been addressed was his ability to get to those dead ball situations by targeting our bigger players on the edge of the box. That or blocking off Meslier getting to the ball to claim it. Obviously hindsight is a wonderful thing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Didn't pass the eye test for me today. Stats feel misleading. For his very high standards, his delivery was below par. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Law of averages stuff really. He had so many dead balls to deliver some of them were going to be arse. If we win I doubt anyone notices. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, David Edgar said: Didn't pass the eye test for me today. Stats feel misleading. For his very high standards, his delivery was below par. I was literally about to post the same comment. Failed the eye test at the stadium where he hasn’t before. The stats will always be weighted in his favour in an attacking sense because our whole system is designed around him getting forwards and he takes every attacking set piece, so will always be the source of chances but today he’ll be very unhappy with his performance. He even gestured to the fans, with his hand up apologetically, mid way through the second half after another dogshit cross. Not sure that’s a measured stat in your list though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 I was hoping he would have quickly realised that the Leeds keeper was one who liked to come out and catch the crosses but so often, Tripps' balls were sent too near to the keeper or were hanging balls. Would have been better if some of our set play were played short in some instances as the long ball deliveries weren't working. Hope he'll have a banger against Arsenal. Free kick goal again would be nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Yeah, our corners are often creative. But our free kick routines leave a lot to be desired. We take an age to set them up, we are often offside and there isn’t much variation. I’m sure it is something we will improve on over this season and beyond. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 His deliveries today were way off, set piece or open play. One of those days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Giant of a keeper, needed to whip em in more than looping close to the keeper. One of those days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 46 minutes ago, David Edgar said: Didn't pass the eye test for me today. Stats feel misleading. For his very high standards, his delivery was below par. That’s the beauty of data/stats and analysis, they’re non bias and aren’t misleading in the slightest. He was our MAIN creative threat and not responsible for lacklustre finishing or missed chances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 43 minutes ago, Minhosa said: I was literally about to post the same comment. Failed the eye test at the stadium where he hasn’t before. The stats will always be weighted in his favour in an attacking sense because our whole system is designed around him getting forwards and he takes every attacking set piece, so will always be the source of chances but today he’ll be very unhappy with his performance. He even gestured to the fans, with his hand up apologetically, mid way through the second half after another dogshit cross. Not sure that’s a measured stat in your list though? Nope, I wasn’t in the ground to give an “eye test”. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Bonk said: That’s the beauty of data/stats and analysis, they’re non bias and aren’t misleading in the slightest. He was our MAIN creative threat and not responsible for lacklustre finishing or missed chances. Not at all true. Metrics can be flawed. You don't just use data in isolation without an eye test. Laughing face emoji. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 XG is mega limited. There are loads of XG models and they all give varying results. As one example. And even then that can be flawed. XG is fine as a general idea of how a game went, but eye test will always be king. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 We had more than enough half chances on the end of his deliveries today. There was a lot of them and many weren't great and that would be the case even if one of the chances had gone in, but had one of the chances gone in, he'd have more than done his job too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 1 hour ago, David Edgar said: XG is mega limited. There are loads of XG models and they all give varying results. As one example. And even then that can be flawed. XG is fine as a general idea of how a game went, but eye test will always be king. Not if the owner of the eyes is clueless, surely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, Rich said: Not if the owner of the eyes is clueless, surely? No, anyone with eyes can interpret everything precisely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Seems a few folks in this Twitter thread have him failing the eye test as well. Maybe they’re just clueless too….. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) So is he or isn't he suspended? I hope not since we don't seem to have a back up rb at present. Edited December 31, 2022 by OverThere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWMag Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 He isn’t suspended Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 My impression was he was heavily involved but was highly wasteful with that. I love him but definitely thought he had a disappointing game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, Inferior Acuña said: My impression was he was heavily involved but was highly wasteful with that. I love him but definitely thought he had a disappointing game. This is what the stats say to me when you mix them with the “eye test” as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Nearly everything in the highlights is Trippier created chances. Cabaye dined out on a lot less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWMag Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 32 minutes ago, Jonas said: Nearly everything in the highlights is Trippier created chances. Cabaye dined out on a lot less. Just come here to say this. the sky sports highlights shows 8 chances for us, 6 of which are from Trippier free kicks/corners. so whilst it is true that some of his deliveries were poor, he’s the last person we should be digging out. Could easily have had a hat trick of assists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 I don't think you can expect the same quality of delivery when it is pissing down with rain. In the rain, the usual thing is to get your shots on target (ahem), so the keeper spills them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 Must admit with the height we have for set pieces and the quality of delivery Trippier (usually) has, it is a bit of a puzzler how we don't have that many headed goals, especially from the defenders. We usually tower over other teams at set pieces in terms of overall height. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 2 hours ago, et tu brute said: Must admit with the height we have for set pieces and the quality of delivery Trippier (usually) has, it is a bit of a puzzler how we don't have that many headed goals, especially from the defenders. We usually tower over other teams at set pieces in terms of overall height. Easy equation that doesn’t prove out when the ball is on the pitch. Height isn’t the only qualifier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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