pubteam Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Yes botman wasn't great, but collectively the defence isn't functioning as a unit, I don't think it will until we get pope fit again and a functioning midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Was awful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Was really bad tonight, some of the decision making was just baffling He hasn't looked right since returning from injury, probably a case of taking him time to get up to speed but the way Arsenal played tonight unless a player was 100% on it they would get badly punished Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1tche Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 The whole back 4 lacks pace, when I was managing I always tried to set with pace in every other position. So if my RB was quick the LCB would have to be the quicker of the 2 CBs. We don't have that luxury unfortunately. He had a higher ceiling the Schar in my mind, so getting in a pacey RCB and LB should be priority in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 If there's any chance the knee isn't fully up to scratch and is causing his troubles, I think I'd rather just bite the bullet, get the op done and say see you next season. Hopefully our new physio has closely reviewed the situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 5 hours ago, 80 said: If there's any chance the knee isn't fully up to scratch and is causing his troubles, I think I'd rather just bite the bullet, get the op done and say see you next season. Hopefully our new physio has closely reviewed the situation. Wasn’t it his ACL, though? Quite a long recovery if he’s having that as an op. Guessing it might mean a graft to replace the damaged ligament. Which is usually 6-9 months for a footballer, isn’t it? I’m assuming because of his age and it not being ruptured, more just damaged/badly sprained (no idea here BTW). They settled on not going for the op. Terrible from our medical team to miss it in the first place and have him play two more games. Worse still if he ended up needing an operation after all this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 58 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: Wasn’t it his ACL, though? Quite a long recovery if he’s having that as an op. Guessing it might mean a graft to replace the damaged ligament. Which is usually 6-9 months for a footballer, isn’t it? I’m assuming because of his age and it not being ruptured, more just damaged/badly sprained (no idea here BTW). They settled on not going for the op. Terrible from our medical team to miss it in the first place and have him play two more games. Worse still if he ended up needing an operation after all this. I think that's the gist of it, yes. Hopefully it isn't necessary, but it feels totally in keeping with this season for something like that to eventually happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Just watching the highlights, holy fuck Botman Game to forget for him last night. He looked calamitous in such a calm way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OoOGazOoO Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 6 hours ago, NE27 said: Just watching the highlights, holy fuck Botman Game to forget for him last night. He looked calamitous in such a calm way. Aye I have just watched the highlights too, I said at the time for their second that he was half asleep, but that was being generous to him. Also at fault initially for Saka's goal with a really crappy pass. Horrendous from him yesterday, what the chuff was he playing at! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 It was the deer in headlights instances for me he was given the ball and placed his foot on it not knowing what to do or where to go. It had to be a confidence thing as Arsenal particularly in the first half they were coming at us in waves but being so slow to try and break out of our own third was suicide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPL Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Think Tino's position could have been slightly deeper to offer a better position to receive the ball. Burn is actually excellent at doing this but there's no doubt he had a poor game and it's probably the worse one since he's been at the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Botman has been poor since he come back... our defensive felt better when Trippier Lascelles Schar Livramento were the back four..... However Botman is a grade A player, possibly brought back from injury a tad soon and is being chronically exposed by our midfield. Look at Van Dijk, he was "past it". Players can come in and out of form and it tends to happen to centre backs when the team isn't playing so well. That's now Trippier, Burn and Botman who've had terrible spells this season. Its not the individuals, or at least not solely the individuals to blame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 27 minutes ago, STM said: Botman has been poor since he come back... our defensive felt better when Trippier Lascelles Schar Livramento were the back four..... However Botman is a grade A player, possibly brought back from injury a tad soon and is being chronically exposed by our midfield. Look at Van Dijk, he was "past it". Players can come in and out of form and it tends to happen to centre backs when the team isn't playing so well. That's now Trippier, Burn and Botman who've had terrible spells this season. Its not the individuals, or at least not solely the individuals to blame. Liverpool had a dysfunctional midfield and their defence took the flack.. they brought in quality and now look solid again. Were the same.. our midfield and attack has been rank this season so it’s inevitable that the back line will come under more pressure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 12 hours ago, Dr Jinx said: Liverpool had a dysfunctional midfield and their defence took the flack.. they brought in quality and now look solid again. Were the same.. our midfield and attack has been rank this season so it’s inevitable that the back line will come under more pressure. They don't look as good as before though. I wouldn't call them solid. Their Xga is a long way short of Arsenal and City. But they have the best GK in the league which narrows the gap (and an excellent understudy). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 On 25/02/2024 at 20:41, STM said: Botman has been poor since he come back... our defensive felt better when Trippier Lascelles Schar Livramento were the back four..... Nope. Pope, Joelinton… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 hour ago, Ronaldo said: Nope. Pope, Joelinton… That too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Odds on we don’t see him again for rest of season and he has surgery? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 25 minutes ago, Sibierski said: Odds on we don’t see him again for rest of season and he has surgery? Was a thought in the back of my mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny1403 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 NUFC.com says he was just rested for Blackburn and will be back for Wolves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Absolute dogshit tonight. If he needs surgery then fucking just do it, because this version of him is so poor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC91 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 He's so fucking slow, made Jackson look like prime Drogba for 3rd goal way he got turned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorchyTBB Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Just awful. Again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 I'm pretty sure we are playing him injured, we need to see if surgery in the summer is the right way forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 No idea what the crack with him is - looks absolute shadow of the player he was last year. Same with all of our defenders to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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