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Sven Botman: targeting January return (Howe)


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Can only assume he's not at full fitness, because he looked like Stevie Taylor's long lost Dutch cousin tonight and he's been shaky for weeks. That was the pits tonight, really hope it's only upwards from now on.

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I'm sick of goals we have conceded by the ball going between his legs or worse him deflecting the ball into the net.  It's got to be at least six goals that were similar.  Oh, and he normally has his arms tucked nicely behind his back.  That fecking helped Sven. 

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If he isn’t fit. Then why the fuck do we keep playing him? It’s the same for Longstaff. I think both of them look too bad to just be a case of them being below par all season. It has to be injury related. 
 

Whether it is or isn’t a fitness issue. Both Botman and Longstaff need to be taken out of the starting lineup IMO. They are putting in horror shows every week now. 

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4 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said:

If he isn’t fit. Then why the fuck do we keep playing him? It’s the same for Longstaff. I think both of them look too bad to just be a case of them being below par all season. It has to be injury related. 
 

Whether it is or isn’t a fitness issue. Both Botman and Longstaff need to be taken out of the starting lineup IMO. They are putting in horror shows every week now. 

 

Just waiting until the season ends and it's announced he's out for 4 month for an operation on his knee and he's been playing with ACL damage....or something. Another medical team failure :lol:

 

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8 minutes ago, Aiston said:

 

Just waiting until the season ends and it's announced he's out for 4 month for an operation on his knee and he's been playing with ACL damage....or something. Another medical team failure :lol:

 


It certainly feels like that. In some ways, I hope it is. As he has gone from looking like one of our best CB’s of the modern era. To a slightly better version of Boumsong, this year. 

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5 minutes ago, black_n_white said:

Struggling due to a lack of a keeper who can play sweeper. He’ll improve when Pope is back.


That’s fair up to a point. But he got done wrong side on the halfway line for their third, it was a dreadful clearance for the first and for the second. I’m assuming him and about 4-5 of our players decided against going to close down Palmer. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Big Geordie said:

Pish tonight and not for the first time. May need a spell on the bench.

Nah he needs to keep playing to find his form.  We all know there's a player there - I just hope he's not carrying an injury.

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Why would Howe be playing him if he hasn’t fully recovered? He’s come back into a team lacking confidence and has been shite. 

 

I’d like to see Lascelles back in but no way Howe is dropping anyone that already has so much credit in the bank.  

 

 

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I put a lot of his weaknesses down to Dubravka. Might sound ridiculous but the whole point of having a player like Botman is that you have a sweeper keeper, any slow player that's part of a high line will be exposed without one.

 

Having said that he was especially poor tonight.

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6 minutes ago, duo said:

Nah he needs to keep playing to find his form.  We all know there's a player there - I just hope he's not carrying an injury.

 

Some of the local hacks reckon he hasn't really recovered from the injury he was out so long with, last year. Has Howe and the medical team brought him back too early?

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It isn’t the first time he’s been done by an athletic forward, if Botman has a weakness it’s physical.. he’s not elite level quick or agile. Its not a massive problem but it will see him occasionally struggle against the more the physically gifted attacking players in this league.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Aiston said:

 

Just waiting until the season ends and it's announced he's out for 4 month for an operation on his knee and he's been playing with ACL damage....or something. Another medical team failure :lol:

 

It’s not a medical team failure. He had a scan 2 weeks ago at the Dutch specialist that confirmed everything looks fine.

 

My personal opinion, and it’s just guesswork, is that he is playing within himself… tentative due to worry of it happening again. He’s had some really poor performances in the last few weeks, but you don’t become a poor player overnight for no reason.

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43 minutes ago, Big Geordie said:

 

Some of the local hacks reckon he hasn't really recovered from the injury he was out so long with, last year. Has Howe and the medical team brought him back too early?

No. My source on that is, well, as close to the horses mouth as you can get really. All his scans are absolutely fine.

 

i think it’s a mentality problem.

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28 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

No. My source on that is, well, as close to the horses mouth as you can get really. All his scans are absolutely fine.

 

i think it’s a mentality problem.

As well as being out for so long he has been jettisoned into a squad playing badly and lacking confidence. Our back 4 is getting zero protection - our midfield is none existent. 

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