Sibierski Posted November 23, 2025 Share Posted November 23, 2025 1 hour ago, Lush Vlad said: I’d love him to stay. But depends on what he is asking for. Bruno is our highest earner, I think? Based on reports anyway. That’s probably deserved if true. Gordon allegedly next, which isn’t deserved. If he wants somewhere in that bracket. I don’t think he would deserve that for his role within the team and his injury history. But at the same time, Burn and Schar aren’t getting any younger. So we’d be replacing 3 CB’s in a short space of time. I think he has mainly been brilliant in the CL this season. But had some iffy games in the league. I feel yesterday opened up the gateway for Burn to come back into side at LCB for Everton. And Burn will want to be playing regularly at CB because he has a very legit chance of going to World Cup, so if Botman is basically a back up CB up to summer, it makes giving him a new deal on £120k+ very difficult to justify. You’re right it opens up needing to replace 3 CBs in a short space of time, but maybe that’s what has to happen. 2 CBs this summer coming knowing season has ended with Thaiw / Burn as starting CBs. Then Burn replacement in 2027? Botman wanting to stay on just a fraction more wages would be best all round. I don’t feel there’s a market for him to get bigger wages elsewhere and compete at top end. So maybe we hold the power here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wong989 Posted November 27, 2025 Share Posted November 27, 2025 It’s a shame, the first while he was here he looked immense, intelligent, unshakeable, the only minor weakness being speed/agility, but he was better than he looked that way and rarely did it cost him. After the injuries it seems his confidence in tight spaces is dented massively, and he seems a bit slower. I think we need to keep him and improve the team in terms of composure and technique. Sick of seeing us endlessly misplacing passes. We need a midfielder who technically exceeds Bruno, whether it’s a prospect or now. Shame these last 2/3 years we didn’t sign someone with the potential to do it, because we can’t sign Eze’s once they reach that level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 27, 2025 Share Posted November 27, 2025 I still think he's class like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Posted November 28, 2025 Share Posted November 28, 2025 He’s had a serious injury but still has the age to get back to the level he used to be at. IIRC.. VVD took a while after that Pickford injury to get back to his best levels which were last season, think maybe age and also the team playing shit is exposing him now, it’s the same for Botman. Very few in our side have looked ok in the last number of away games. So while as an individual he’s got some way to go, the team is exposing every frailty too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted November 28, 2025 Share Posted November 28, 2025 Are people writing him off like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted November 28, 2025 Share Posted November 28, 2025 2 minutes ago, duo said: Are people writing him off like? Eh?? Of course Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted November 28, 2025 Share Posted November 28, 2025 Get that new deal sorted please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 28, 2025 Share Posted November 28, 2025 11 hours ago, The Prophet said: I still think he's class like. He's brilliant, honestly don't know what people are on about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted November 28, 2025 Share Posted November 28, 2025 He's moving up the shit list, he's overtaken Murphy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted November 28, 2025 Share Posted November 28, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, Holloway said: He's moving up the shit list, he's overtaken Murphy Does anyone hate on Murphy? Edited November 28, 2025 by TRC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted November 28, 2025 Share Posted November 28, 2025 Just now, TRC said: Doesn’t anyone hate on Murphy? Not now no, as proven the other night when he gave away the ball about 10 times in a row. Hardly a murmur on here, Gordon was playing. Botman is about as quick as Bruno,and is floundering since his injury, apparently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseman Posted November 28, 2025 Share Posted November 28, 2025 It would be a mistake to lise him, but also his wage demands have to be realistic, he cant expect near the same as Bruno, who is our captain and Brazil international, while Botman is currently still uncapped by the Netherlands Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted November 28, 2025 Share Posted November 28, 2025 12 hours ago, duo said: Are people writing him off like? Yes, along with Elanga, Gordon, Joelinton etc. All washed up duds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted November 28, 2025 Share Posted November 28, 2025 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted November 28, 2025 Share Posted November 28, 2025 46 minutes ago, TRC said: Does anyone hate on Murphy? Probably this lad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 28, 2025 Share Posted November 28, 2025 Howe said he's been carrying a back injury fwiw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEFAFWISP Posted November 29, 2025 Share Posted November 29, 2025 Liverpool's new CB. Can keep his mate happy and we get some Dosh for another crock. Make it happen Slut. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 29, 2025 Share Posted November 29, 2025 18 hours ago, Yorkie said: Howe said he's been carrying a back injury fwiw. He's not even on the bench today so something is up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted November 29, 2025 Share Posted November 29, 2025 Gone for a scan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted November 29, 2025 Share Posted November 29, 2025 1 hour ago, duo said: Gone for a scan “Hopefully he isn’t out for too long” Guessing the next international break then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted November 29, 2025 Share Posted November 29, 2025 Just now, Mikky said: “Hopefully he isn’t out for too long” Guessing the next international break then Got great cover for him so I'm not to concerned, might be worth giving Schar another year to cover though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted November 29, 2025 Share Posted November 29, 2025 This is the concern with paying him what he is worth. When fit and firing. He would probably be one of our highest earners based on ability and performance levels. But he has had some bad injuries and a load of niggles the last two seasons. Definitely lost some agility and quickness because of the injuries and all. This might just be a precaution and he ends up being fine. But I still don’t think you can commit big money to someone who has such an iffy fitness record. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted December 2, 2025 Share Posted December 2, 2025 Any inside news on this guys injury? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankpingel Posted December 2, 2025 Share Posted December 2, 2025 5 minutes ago, Sibierski said: Any inside news on this guys injury? EH said yesterday he was undergoing scans over the next couple of days to establish if rest or injections are needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted December 2, 2025 Share Posted December 2, 2025 Something isn’t right, he couldn’t run in his last game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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