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3 hours ago, alexf said:

Hope he comes back close to the 22/23 version we saw and not the 23/24 post injury version.

 

Because he was a shadow of himself during that spell, so I hope he was just playing injured, although all the sound bites coming from him at the time was that he was 100% healthy and the knee wasn't effecting him.

 

So I hope he was lying because we need the old Botman back. I think it will be next season before he's back to form from previous other player examples. 


I would imagine there was a high degree of lacking trust/confidence in the knee. Ironically there is often a greater risk in rupturing the opposite knee after surgery and rehab so he should be fine once he’s back. 

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If his surgeon and physios have said he’s ready to play be mental to randomly decide not to play him regularly until next season.

 

The club always said 9 months, and December/January is ~9months post surgery. So far his recovery is all going to plan - course he may pick up niggles which delay him.

 

Hes now back in training but my guess is he won’t be doing the full contact sessions yet, hence it’s another 2 months

 

 

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1 minute ago, WilliamPS said:

If his surgeon and physios have said he’s ready to play be mental to randomly decide not to play him regularly until next season.

 

The club always said 9 months, and December/January is ~9months post surgery. So far his recovery is all going to plan - course he may pick up niggles which delay him.

 

Hes now back in training but my guess is he won’t be doing the full contact sessions yet, hence it’s another 2 months

 

 

 

I think the 9 months is a realistic timeframe, he's been training for a while.   He also doesn't strike me as someone who would struggle mentally after an injury but he is young and he is a big asset so we shouldn't rush him back.   I do think he will be back around that time though and I hope it goes well for him as he is such a key player for us and we have missed him a lot. There is an insane drop off from him to Burn at Cb in terms of the confidence and structure of the back 4.  Especially with Schar ageing a little.

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6 hours ago, relámpago blanco said:

I think the 9 months is a realistic timeframe, he's been training for a while.   He also doesn't strike me as someone who would struggle mentally after an injury but he is young and he is a big asset so we shouldn't rush him back.   I do think he will be back around that time though and I hope it goes well for him as he is such a key player for us and we have missed him a lot. There is an insane drop off from him to Burn at Cb in terms of the confidence and structure of the back 4.  Especially with Schar ageing a little.

Misssed his passing out from the back too.

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3 hours ago, Newcastle Fan said:

If he's back in full training we can expect him earlier than Jan?


Not been in any of the videos or pics of them training yet, has he? Perhaps it is more the drills and ball work with the team? Not actually joining in with the games. 
 

From personal experience. Contact stuff, change of direction, jumping etc. That all takes time. Getting back to fitness, straight lines, controlled sessions in the gym or for sport seemed to come quite quickly. But that final hurdle seemed quite far away. It genuinely is like learning to walk again in a way! 

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My apprentice was telling me today that his nephew is good mates with ndwendi (thinks that how you spell it). Who was recently released by Newcastle. He trained with the first team a lot and his nephew asked him who was the best player at Newcastle and he said Botman by a country mile.

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12 minutes ago, Myleftboot said:

My apprentice was telling me today that his nephew is good mates with ndwendi (thinks that how you spell it). Who was recently released by Newcastle. He trained with the first team a lot and his nephew asked him who was the best player at Newcastle and he said Botman by a country mile.

There was someone else here quoting one of our players (or former players?) saying that Isak and Borman are the only true elite players in the squad.

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