KaKa Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, huss9 said: howe will definitley taking trippier's opinion of Lodi into account. pretty good references if Howe, Trippier, Simone and the Brazil coach all rate him. would still love targett too. Not to mention Lodi also played with Bruno in Brazil before they both came over to Europe. Edited May 24, 2022 by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWMag Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 1 hour ago, KaKa said: He played it as his preferred formation during his time at Bournemouth, through multiple rebuilds of his team. It is the formation he mostly played to bring Bournemouth all the way to the Premier League. It's the first formation he looked to play as soon as he came in at Newcastle during his first four games. Lets wait and see. I am pretty confident that's what he will use. It's interesting to note that he spent time observing Simeone during his time off, another manager that uses a 4-4-2 and has his team defend very well with that setup, which is the part Howe needed to improve on with his 4-4-2. I think it's a big part of why we are looking to sign two strikers this summer, and therefore have 4 strikers going into the season. If I recall correctly Howe was asked a few weeks ago if he would be playing both Wood and Wilson, and he said no and I’m pretty sure he said something which indicated he was not a fan of having 2 up top. he may have changed in his time away. The formation and tactics against Arsenal was the best I’ve seen is play in a long time, it wouldn’t surprise me if he sticks with that long term. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, NWMag said: If I recall correctly Howe was asked a few weeks ago if he would be playing both Wood and Wilson, and he said no and I’m pretty sure he said something which indicated he was not a fan of having 2 up top. he may have changed in his time away. The formation and tactics against Arsenal was the best I’ve seen is play in a long time, it wouldn’t surprise me if he sticks with that long term. Probably because neither of them are really second/deep strikers. Wilson typically played highest up the pitch at Bournemouth, with King dropping in behind him. Wood typically played higher up the pitch at Burnley, with Barnes dropping in behind him. Eddie's 4-4-2 formation really just ends up being a variation of the 4-2-3-1, but with a second striker that is versatile, rather than a number 10. Edited May 25, 2022 by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Wonder if we go back in, i hope not tbh: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Villa are spending a lot of money and wages on older players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ronson333 said: Villa are spending a lot of money and wages on older players I think they've struck a nice balance, to be fair to them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 I really hope we aren’t in for Mings if Villa cash in to help fund these deals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Agree. I actually don’t mind Mings but he’d cost way more than than his ability warrants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 It will be interesting what happens when we go head to head against the likes of Villa on a transfer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Just now, Ronson333 said: It will be interesting what happens when we go head to head against the likes of Villa on a transfer. At this moment in time they are willing to offer bigger wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Villa have done smart business getting in Kamara on a free (22) and Countinho (29) for a combined £17 million. Just like us, they'll have their eyes on top eight next season, so we'll inevitably be linked with similar players. That said I think our plans are going to be fairly different. I don't get the weird social media rivalry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, The Prophet said: I don't get the weird social media rivalry. Social media? Ever since they went daft after us getting relegated there on the final day of the season I've hated them lol. Us and Villa are in very similar positions at the moment (that last part being key). Both lower half clubs with money they're willing to spend to get into the top half/top 6. It should be in the coming years where we really start to pull away. If the PIF are really serious about this we will soon start to see some of the benefits of essentially being state owned. Commercially we should be able to pull away from them pretty quickly, and therefore have way more FFP room to play with, as well as the willingness to spend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 34 minutes ago, sushimonster85 said: Social media? Ever since they went daft after us getting relegated there on the final day of the season I've hated them lol. Us and Villa are in very similar positions at the moment (that last part being key). Both lower half clubs with money they're willing to spend to get into the top half/top 6. It should be in the coming years where we really start to pull away. If the PIF are really serious about this we will soon start to see some of the benefits of essentially being state owned. Commercially we should be able to pull away from them pretty quickly, and therefore have way more FFP room to play with, as well as the willingness to spend. I think we are already ahead of Villa ,we even finished above them this season and they had a 3 month head start on us , we have a much better manager and if we are in for similar players they will join us over Villa, not in the slightest expecting Villa to finish above us next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Prophet Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 £60 million to £100 million seems to be what all the local journos have been breifed, nothing new really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) 57 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Villa have done smart business getting in Kamara on a free (22) and Countinho (29) for a combined £17 million. Just like us, they'll have their eyes on top eight next season, so we'll inevitably be linked with similar players. That said I think our plans are going to be fairly different. I don't get the weird social media rivalry. Agreed, if we had signed both we would be over the moon I read somewhere they had splashed a lot of cash over the last few years and only had 5 million wriggle room for FFP, it appears that’s not the case (unless they sell a few players for big money) Too many fans thinking it’s only us that will strengthen and all other teams are making shite signings !! just concentrate on our own club , couldn’t give two shits about others , however it’s fair to say that villa are showing ambition as will we ! Edited May 25, 2022 by JonBez comesock Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: I know one source that cunt won't have and that's the owners themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 19 minutes ago, The Prophet said: £60 million to £100 million seems to be what all the local journos have been breifed, nothing new really. Seems to be the case. If true, our owners either need to temper their ambitions or increase the budget as that’s mid-table outlay. Gradual improvement does seem sensible but obviously not as exciting. Or “it’s just a ploy to keep prices down”, which I’ve never really understood. Teams don’t just dole out discounts because you’re pretending to be skint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 I wonder if the budget is set without any of the possible commercial or sponsorship deals taken into consideration? Very quiet on that front currently so we could see an increase once any of those are announced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Aye, speaking of such things, I wonder if we see a CEO appointed shortly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: I wonder if the budget is set without any of the possible commercial or sponsorship deals taken into consideration? Very quiet on that front currently so we could see an increase once any of those are announced. Exactly what I was thinking , if we have a big sponsorship deal or deals lined up (which we are all hoping for) Surely the budget will change if it is still fun88 and no other stadium or training kit sponsor / sleeve sponsor maybe the budget will be low? you would think we would have at least 1 decent sponsorship deal lined up or all this talk of aiming for Europe / pushing for top 7 is nonsense Villa/Wolves/spurs/arsenal/Leicester West Ham will all spend to be fair I think we were over achieving last year and teams will be harder to beat/improved next year it’s all about staying ahead of the game / improving players like Chris Wood / Lascelles/Murphy / dummett / even longstaff shouldn’t be getting much or any game time if we want to push on. No disrespect but we made the perfect signings in January to get us out the shit but we need top level players to aim for Europe. Not top top elite players but good enough to sustain a good effort towards Europe squad depth / quality is key Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SUPERTOON Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Assuming it is 3 top signings where would people say it needs to be spent? I would assume most would agree Striker and RW are the 2 main priorities but I’m unsure on what position would be next. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Assuming it is 3 top signings where would people say it needs to be spent? I would assume most would agree Striker and RW are the 2 main priorities but I’m unsure on what position would be next. ST, RW, CM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Assuming it is 3 top signings where would people say it needs to be spent? I would assume most would agree Striker and RW are the 2 main priorities but I’m unsure on what position would be next. Left back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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