Keegans Export Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 His name came up a couple of weeks ago, personally I dismissed them on the basis that he is generally considered to be a bit of a bellend and we know how keen Howe is to develop the right sort of "culture" here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 We wouldnt touch Rabiot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 (edited) I can't see Howe going to 3 at the back. He didn't even go for it against Liverpool or Man City. He only did it against Chelsea when he had 1 striker and 2 CM's available. He moved us away from it as soon as he came in. I don't see the reasoning behind thinking he's just waiting to take us back to it. Edited June 1, 2022 by xLiaaamx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 On 01/06/2022 at 19:28, SUPERTOON said: Joelinton should play where he is now or not at all imo Expand Agreed He is a work horse in midfield and very strong up front he looks like bambi on ice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey47 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 (edited) On 01/06/2022 at 19:58, xLiaaamx said: I can't see Howe going to 3 at the back. He didn't even go for it against Liverpool or Man City. He only did it against Chelsea when he had 1 striker and 2 CM's available. He moved us away from it as soon as he came in. I don't see the reasoning behind thinking he's just waiting to take us back to it. Expand This is just my personal opinion and it's all speculation but... Various things make me believe that he wants to at least have the option of going 3-4-3 against certain opposition: He had success with it at Bournemouth against Conte's Chelsea. I think he wanted to play it more at Bournemouth but didn't have the right personnel to do make it work. He very often speaks of wanting players who are versatile (Dan Burn who played for Potter as a left CB in a back 3, a LB in a back 4 and even a LWB I believe) His first game as Manager (vs Brentford) he set us up in a 3-4-3. This was nothing like Bruce's 5 at the back formations the game was too hectic and back and forth and we had no control. After this he got us playing 4 at the back again because he saw for himself that we didn't have the players needed to play an attacking 3-4-3. Even after this failure against Brentford he tried it again against Chelsea as you have mentioned. If he wanted to only play a back 4 why would he want to sign Lodi (can play in a back 4 but most say he is defensively suspect) while it would be so easy to sign Targett (a very good LB but not LWB) for a bargain and just forget about the LB position. The only reason I can think of is that he wants flexibility to at least be able to play various formations including his 3-4-3. It's been well documented that he spent time studying Simeone's Athletico Madrid who switch between a 3 at the back formation and a 4-4-2 depending on the oppostion. Edited June 1, 2022 by Joey47 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 On 01/06/2022 at 20:22, Joey47 said: This is just my personal opinion and it's all speculation but... Various things make me believe that he wants to at least have the option of going 3-4-3 against certain opposition: He had success with it at Bournemouth against Conte's Chelsea. I think he wanted to play it more at Bournemouth but didn't have the right personnel to do make it work. He very often speaks of wanting players who are versatile (Dan Burn who played for Potter as a left CB in a back 3, a LB in a back 4 and even a LWB I believe) His first game as Manager (vs Brentford) he set us up in a 3-4-3. This was nothing like Bruce's 5 at the back formations the game was too hectic and back and forth and we had no control. After this he got us playing 4 at the back again because he saw for himself that we didn't have the players needed to play an attacking 3-4-3. Even after this failure against Brentford he tried it again against Chelsea as you have mentioned. If he wanted to only play a back 4 why would he want to sign Lodi (can play in a back 4 but most say he is defensively suspect) while it would be so easy to sign Targett (a very good LB but not LWB) for a bargain and just forget about the LB position. The only reason I can think of is that he wants flexibility to at least be able to play various formations including his 3-4-3. Expand Think we played that way against Brentford and Chelsea this season because they themselves play 3 at the back, and so he was matching up against the opposition. Conte has always played that way too, and so he matched up with them back when he beat Chelsea with Bournemouth. Well worth having players to be able to switch to that setup, because a number of other teams line up that way now, and so sometimes it is beneficial matching up with them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 (edited) On 01/06/2022 at 20:17, JonBez comesock said: Agreed He is a work horse in midfield and very strong up front he looks like bambi on ice Expand Still they doubt the phenom from Brazil. Next season a new chapter .... Edited June 1, 2022 by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 Against Chelsea we only had Bruno and Longstaff though, we couldn't play 433 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 On 01/06/2022 at 19:58, xLiaaamx said: I can't see Howe going to 3 at the back. He didn't even go for it against Liverpool or Man City. He only did it against Chelsea when he had 1 striker and 2 CM's available. He moved us away from it as soon as he came in. I don't see the reasoning behind thinking he's just waiting to take us back to it. Expand 1st game vs Brentford he played 3 CBs. Admittedly we had Murphy and Ritchie at WB so it may have been a necessity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 On 01/06/2022 at 18:58, Ikon said: One can always wish. If we get the right players in and show real ambition then he will want to join. It’s all a way for him to say things like this to create some interest. But yeah, might reject us. Expand I suspect he already has. He looks a very good player, but not within our reach at the moment. I don't think the club will (or should) go down the route of overcoming a player's reluctance by giving them an inflated salary. Apart from anything else, there now seems to be some extra enthusiasm behind enforcing FFP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 On 01/06/2022 at 18:55, The Prophet said: Shame. Expand His English sounds really good, which like you said makes it a shame given we’re just a few years away from this type of signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 On 02/06/2022 at 06:26, RodneyCisse said: His English sounds really good, which like you said makes it a shame given we’re just a few years away from this type of signing. Expand Reading the full quotes, he was asked about his link to us and he said it's nice to be linked to a big club. Not all bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 On 01/06/2022 at 19:45, toontownman said: Quite a few have been pushing the Rabiot to toon links. Not convinced we are after him. Maybe driving up the asking price for Chelsea? Rabiot seems to have a ton of detractors online, especially France supporters? I really don't know enough about him to know if he would be a good get for us or not Expand One of them midfielders who just never stands out any time I watch him (which hasn't been years tbh), although he's apparently amazing at everything according to WhoScored Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 I'm predicting Chelsea and us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 It's says MAJOR PL clubs, I mean come on.... Chelsea aren't major. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 On 02/06/2022 at 08:44, STM said: It's says MAJOR PL clubs, I mean come on.... Chelsea aren't major. Expand 2 times European Champions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 On 02/06/2022 at 08:45, HTT II said: 2 times European Champions? Expand Clearly not obvious enough in my sarcasm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emotic Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 On 02/06/2022 at 08:44, STM said: It's says MAJOR PL clubs, I mean come on.... Chelsea aren't major. Expand Was about to make the exact same joke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 He's the one I want like. Either him or Botman but Badiashile's athleticism gives him a much higher ceiling. He's also younger and I don't think he'd take up a squad place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Badiashile would be absolutely awesome. Pls Pls Pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest HTT II Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 It will be Chelsea and Villa… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Manxst Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 On 02/06/2022 at 09:22, The Prophet said: Expand Time to revise your transfer spend guess Luke.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mansour Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 On 02/06/2022 at 08:52, 54 said: Expand Who could be the third option ?? Certainly no to DCL, yes to Nunez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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