Flip Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 8 minutes ago, Nine said: Paquetas natural position is a #10 which has no place unless we plan to change formation, he'd be expensive as well. Honestly, his natural position is basically whatever Joelinton or Willock has been playing for us. Him centrally with Bruno and another defensive midfielder is basically how the national team will start at the World Cup if Bruno and him keeps this up. He has this knack for getting into the box at the right time. That being said just like with Bruno, there are questionmarks to his game as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 20 minutes ago, Flip said: Why would we spend loads of money to play Paqueta out of position? Cos he can play from the right and that would be where he fits our system the best? At least in the short run. Probably could do a good job in a pair in front of a DM in a dominant team. Not sure if he can do that for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 It will really depend on what shape Howe wants to play next season, I have a feeling he would like to go back to his 4-4-1-1 but should ASA stay that becomes really diecey :lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 Just now, Flip said: Honestly, his natural position is basically whatever Joelinton or Willock has been playing for us. Him centrally with Bruno and another defensive midfielder is basically how the national team will start at the World Cup if Bruno and him keeps this up. He has this knack for getting into the box at the right time. That being said just like with Bruno, there are questionmarks to his game as well. So you think he might work as one of the front 2 of a midfield 3? Him and Bruno as part of a 3 might only be viable in the PL with an elite DM behind them, would be pleasing on the eye though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 (edited) 4-2-3-1 as West Ham play with Paqueta the central AM would be the best formation for him in my opinion. All down to whether Eddie is fixed on the 3 in midfield as we have currently. Bruno in the 2 with someone like Kamara or Haidara alongside would be a solid midfield base. Edited April 24, 2022 by Whitley mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, r0cafella said: It will really depend on what shape Howe wants to play next season, I have a feeling he would like to go back to his 4-4-1-1 but should ASA stay that becomes really diecey :lol Fwiw, I do think that DM with a pair in front is the strongest formation you can play currently. It is no surprise that Liverpool and Man City use it. I think it has loads more flexibility than a midfield pair with an AM. But yeah, Paqueta could play AM very well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 1 minute ago, David Edgar said: Fwiw, I do think that DM with a pair in front is the strongest formation you can play currently. It is no surprise that Liverpool and Man City use it. I think it has loads more flexibility than a midfield pair with an AM. But yeah, Paqueta could play AM very well. It’s a system I like as well, if you have a mobile DM it really allows your fullbacks to push on as well. The downside is the striker can be isolated especially if you aren’t a city or a Liverpool. It’s also vulnerable to a counter press as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calsk9 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 8 minutes ago, r0cafella said: It’s a system I like as well, if you have a mobile DM it really allows your fullbacks to push on as well. The downside is the striker can be isolated especially if you aren’t a city or a Liverpool. It’s also vulnerable to a counter press as well. To play this system you need a very mobile striker, something we don't have currently. Wood for all he's been good for us, just isn't that type to close down and press. Would love to see us have a look at Terrier for Rennes, who would fill that role very well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 For me I would line to see a proper defensive midfield pivot playing in fron to the back four instead of jonjo. Phillips would be perfect... Then a pacey striker, with two supporting acts either side. My team would look like: ‐‐-----------dubs-------------- tripps----schar-----dan----targett -------------phillips--------------- --------bruno---------goalinton--- diaby---------osihmen------ASM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 If we are looking to sign a DM that plays deep (not sure we are) then I wouldn’t spunk all that on Phillips. Especially when we might have Bruno there pulling the strings very often. I’d be looking for someone like Grillitsch on a free instead and use that 50m or whatever for other players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ikon said: If we are looking to sign a DM that plays deep (not sure we are) then I wouldn’t spunk all that on Phillips. Especially when we might have Bruno there pulling the strings very often. I’d be looking for someone like Grillitsch on a free instead and use that 50m or whatever for other players. Grillitsch would be a very good signing, hope we are able to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 I like Grillitsch but Philips is perhaps the perfect midfielder to compliment Bruno imo. Would love us to sign him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 1 minute ago, McCormick said: I like Grillitsch but Philips is perhaps the perfect midfielder to compliment Bruno imo. Would love us to sign him. 100% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 (edited) I wouldn’t mind him like. It’s just that our attacking front needs massive investment too, along with a attacking midfielder or similar. Edited April 24, 2022 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, Ikon said: I wouldn’t mind him like. It’s just that our attacking front needs massive investment too. Philips and swiping Coutinho off Villa would be dreamy; not hugely unrealistic either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 Paqueta would fit seamlessly into Willock's position, but given how badly the forward line needs investment I'm not sure that we'd bite at the prices mentioned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 I hope we are interested in Jeremy Doku. We were linked a while ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 Of course it all depends on i) the system Howe intends to play and ii) how he wants to play Bruno. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Skeletor said: I hope we are interested in Jeremy Doku. We were linked a while ago. Isn’t he quite raw? Unless I’m thinking of some other player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 Just now, Ikon said: Isn’t he quite raw? Unless I’m thinking of some other player. He is, but rapid and very skilful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Skeletor said: He is, but rapid and very skilful. I would like players that have more end product and like real technical ability, that natural touch and flair. Instead of the pacey and raw dribbling skills. I’m not saying that Doku isn’t this as I’m not sure I have seen him enough to make a fair judgement. His stats look bad though. a good example would be like HBA compared to ASM. HBA natural technical ability is heads and above. Two different types. think this is going to be important when we push some teams back. Having that extra technical ability and creativity instead of raw dribbling skills and pace which is not going to help always Edited April 24, 2022 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 Would love Philips like, him Bruno and Joelinton would have it all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoob Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 19 minutes ago, McCormick said: Philips and swiping Coutinho off Villa would be dreamy; not hugely unrealistic either. I'd be surprised if we go for the likes of Coutinho, I'm sure we'll be steadily increasing the amount we're paying people but someone like Coutinho I'm imagining will be on mental wages and goes against what Howe has said a few times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoSelecta Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 I think they will go big on all signings, minimal personnel changes (4-5) while maximising quality. Remember Mehrdad said in the Athletic interview earlier in the season the only limit on spending would be FFP. Eddie doesn’t want to revolutionise the squad in order to carry the team spirit and ethos he’s built into next season. Good characters will be prioritised and they’ll spend whatever needs to be spent. Could easily see £200m. 4-5 world class signings in priority areas, our current starters in those positions drop to rotation/back up. The deadwood from the squad will be cut away. We will recruit at the very top end and everything else shifts down a level beneath them. That’s the way I see them doing it anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, TheHoob said: I'd be surprised if we go for the likes of Coutinho, I'm sure we'll be steadily increasing the amount we're paying people but someone like Coutinho I'm imagining will be on mental wages and goes against what Howe has said a few times. Started well at Villa but doesn't look interested again. Might be he's got something else lined up, but at 30, on £300k+ pw, i'd hope we'd get 3 players in for that who'll make more of a difference now, and in a few years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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