Geogaddi Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 34 minutes ago, sushimonster85 said:  Social media? Ever since they went daft after us getting relegated there on the final day of the season I've hated them lol.  Us and Villa are in very similar positions at the moment (that last part being key). Both lower half clubs with money they're willing to spend to get into the top half/top 6. It should be in the coming years where we really start to pull away. If the PIF are really serious about this we will soon start to see some of the benefits of essentially being state owned. Commercially we should be able to pull away from them pretty quickly, and therefore have way more FFP room to play with, as well as the willingness to spend. I think we are already ahead of Villa ,we even finished above them this season and they had a 3 month head start on us , we have a much better manager and if we are in for similar players they will join us over Villa, not in the slightest expecting Villa to finish above us next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Prophet Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 ÂŁ60 million to ÂŁ100 million seems to be what all the local journos have been breifed, nothing new really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) 57 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Villa have done smart business getting in Kamara on a free (22) and Countinho (29) for a combined £17 million. Just like us, they'll have their eyes on top eight next season, so we'll inevitably be linked with similar players. That said I think our plans are going to be fairly different.  I don't get the weird social media rivalry. Agreed, if we had signed both we would be over the moon  I read somewhere they had splashed a lot of cash over the last few years and only had 5 million wriggle room for FFP, it appears that’s not the case (unless they sell a few players for big money)  Too many fans thinking it’s only us that will strengthen and all other teams are making shite signings !!  just concentrate on our own club , couldn’t give two shits about others , however it’s fair to say that villa are showing ambition  as will we ! Edited May 25, 2022 by JonBez comesock Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Â I know one source that cunt won't have and that's the owners themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 19 minutes ago, The Prophet said: £60 million to £100 million seems to be what all the local journos have been breifed, nothing new really. Seems to be the case. If true, our owners either need to temper their ambitions or increase the budget as that’s mid-table outlay. Gradual improvement does seem sensible but obviously not as exciting.  Or “it’s just a ploy to keep prices down”, which I’ve never really understood. Teams don’t just dole out discounts because you’re pretending to be skint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 I wonder if the budget is set without any of the possible commercial or sponsorship deals taken into consideration? Very quiet on that front currently so we could see an increase once any of those are announced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Aye, speaking of such things, I wonder if we see a CEO appointed shortly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: I wonder if the budget is set without any of the possible commercial or sponsorship deals taken into consideration? Very quiet on that front currently so we could see an increase once any of those are announced. Exactly what I was thinking , if we have a big sponsorship deal or deals lined up (which we are all hoping for) Surely the budget will change  if it is still fun88 and no other stadium or training kit sponsor / sleeve sponsor  maybe the budget will be low?  you would think we would have at least 1 decent sponsorship deal lined up or all this talk of aiming for Europe / pushing for top 7 is nonsense  Villa/Wolves/spurs/arsenal/Leicester West Ham will all spend to be fair  I think we were over achieving last year and teams will be harder to beat/improved next year  it’s all about staying ahead of the game / improving  players like Chris Wood / Lascelles/Murphy / dummett / even longstaff shouldn’t be getting much or any game time if we want to push on.  No disrespect but we made the perfect signings in January to get us out the shit but we need top level players to aim for Europe.  Not top top elite players but good enough to sustain a good effort towards Europe   squad depth / quality is key    Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SUPERTOON Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Assuming it is 3 top signings where would people say it needs to be spent?  I would assume most would agree Striker and RW are the 2 main priorities but I’m unsure on what position would be next. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Assuming it is 3 top signings where would people say it needs to be spent?  I would assume most would agree Striker and RW are the 2 main priorities but I’m unsure on what position would be next.  ST, RW, CM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Assuming it is 3 top signings where would people say it needs to be spent?  I would assume most would agree Striker and RW are the 2 main priorities but I’m unsure on what position would be next. Left back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Â Â Just saw the report and have been reading about the guy. Apparently he is actually 6 ft 9! A lot of top clubs are looking at him. Â Interestingly enough he is also left footed. And so he might be brought in as backup to Dan Burn, as Howe may be happy with Burn being the first team option as he has been very very good. Â Watching this young kid's youtube highlights he is impossibly mobile and fluid for that height and looks very comfortable on the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Â him and Burn at the back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 http://sportwitness.co.uk/newcastle-united-expressed-interest-belgian-transfer-imminent-hefty-ransom-needed/ Â new name- Wout Faes, 24 yr old Belgian CB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 My worry if claims are true which not sure they are but a limited budget may mean the ownership have fallen into what ashley did on a few occasions that we finished where we did with only half a season with the new Jan signings and no Eddie for the full season and still had amazing stats so don't need to do much to better that. This logic while seems to make sense has bitten us on the arse a few times. Push out dead wood upgrade as many positions as possible as the league never sits still. I think I heard he won't mention the target for the coming season us that because this season was survival and next mid table which we have already managed. Iam going to give the benefit of the doubt and have to just wait and see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 If we’re scouting Ligue 2 we should consider the player of the season Branco van den Boomen, mainly due to the name but by all accounts a good player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, nufcjmc said: My worry if claims are true which not sure they are but a limited budget may mean the ownership have fallen into what ashley did on a few occasions that we finished where we did with only half a season with the new Jan signings and no Eddie for the full season and still had amazing stats so don't need to do much to better that. This logic while seems to make sense has bitten us on the arse a few times. Push out dead wood upgrade as many positions as possible as the league never sits still. I think I heard he won't mention the target for the coming season us that because this season was survival and next mid table which we have already managed. Iam going to give the benefit of the doubt and have to just wait and see.  No chance they'll be doing anything like what Ashley did.  I just think that we will end up focusing on brining in younger emerging talents that are a bit more under the radar and not being pursued by as many clubs, which the budget will allow for, rather than spending big sums. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, nufcjmc said: My worry if claims are true which not sure they are but a limited budget may mean the ownership have fallen into what ashley did on a few occasions that we finished where we did with only half a season with the new Jan signings and no Eddie for the full season and still had amazing stats so don't need to do much to better that. This logic while seems to make sense has bitten us on the arse a few times. Push out dead wood upgrade as many positions as possible as the league never sits still. I think I heard he won't mention the target for the coming season us that because this season was survival and next mid table which we have already managed. Iam going to give the benefit of the doubt and have to just wait and see. Ashley didn’t fall in to any trap, he didn’t spend money because he was a fat greedy bastard who wanted to run us into the ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, nufcjmc said: My worry if claims are true which not sure they are but a limited budget may mean the ownership have fallen into what ashley did on a few occasions that we finished where we did with only half a season with the new Jan signings and no Eddie for the full season and still had amazing stats so don't need to do much to better that. This logic while seems to make sense has bitten us on the arse a few times. Push out dead wood upgrade as many positions as possible as the league never sits still. I think I heard he won't mention the target for the coming season us that because this season was survival and next mid table which we have already managed. Iam going to give the benefit of the doubt and have to just wait and see. PIF won’t allow this. You can forget such logic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 We are finding top players which they are willing to join and the fees are not daylight robbery. Of course this takes time. Bruno didn’t join us on 1 Jan right?  I do agree we should make a few solid signings first, just like Dan Burn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Ashley didn’t fall in to any trap, he didn’t spend money because he was a fat greedy bastard who wanted to run us into the ground.  Think I have worded it poorly but the season we finished 5th was that the one we only got Anita in as "this squad finished 5th". Not giving credit for any sort of strategy but more excuse making. What if we brought forward 2 windows worth of spending in Jan to keep us in the league it may well indicate a modest budget for the coming window. Would love to drop 30/60 million on every position going forward but the reality the squad still needs a massive overhaul. The dead wood we do have are unlikely to go for much money meaning we are mainly relying on cash injections from sponsorship and the owners.  Still let the good times roll  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Saw this on the BBC gossip page, so if we true we can go spend ÂŁ1b yeah? Â Â Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 I think they are throwing a number out there to the press but will do any and all deals that suit us long term and near term and will be opportunistic at that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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