McCormick Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 I’d take him but at a heavily discounted price. Prefer Pedro though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Shit. I just repeated what @Optimistic Nut said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 4 hours ago, jonny1403 said: Dubravka is probably one of the best second choices in the league and Karius one of the best third choices. I really don’t see an issue. Probably agree about Dubz. Whether or not he wants to stay or not I'm not sure on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Loan with option but no obligation to buy at the terms we’d previously agreed. I’d take that if the club rates him so highly. Failing at the most toxic superclub outside of Chelsea doesn’t mean you are crap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 If he’s not happy sat on the bench behind Mbappe, Neymar and Messi, I somehow don’t think he’d fit in here. Much rather go for Joao Pedro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, bowlingcrofty said: If he’s not happy sat on the bench behind Mbappe, Neymar and Messi, I somehow don’t think he’d fit in here. Much rather go for Joao Pedro. Is it not more that he’s just sick of barely playing at all? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Pedro has the added bonus of having more physicality to his game. Ekitike is a lesser version of Isak. Pedro is a different player even though he might operate in similar spaces Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 12 minutes ago, bowlingcrofty said: If he’s not happy sat on the bench behind Mbappe, Neymar and Messi, I somehow don’t think he’d fit in here. Much rather go for Joao Pedro. He'll not get much time here as Howe rarely rotates. He'll be for the bench, which is where he's at already. I doubt he'd have the patience to try and break in. It's a huge no for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Still not even sure what Hugo's real position is, but, I'm all for this transfer if he's going to buy into the team culture and way we play. I'd far prefer Thuram as a free transfer, wide forward but in reality - pay the full fee to get Diaby or of his ilk imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 3 hours ago, The Prophet said: It'll be interesting if we go back for sure. I could see his alleged attitude problems and the fact we now have Isak making it unlikely though. Originally the idea was to find a young back up to Wilson that could grow into a first team role i.e. Ekitike or Pedro. Isak was brought in as a ready to go striker because Wilson got injured early on and we realised we couldn't rely on him. This summer we will go again for that younger striker rotational player option that can also get games in other positions, because Wilson continues to be unreliable fitness wise and we are going to have even more games to play next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Dokko said: He'll not get much time here as Howe rarely rotates. He'll be for the bench, which is where he's at already. I doubt he'd have the patience to try and break in. It's a huge no for me. This is not true. He'll get plenty more game time both coming off the bench and occasionally starting as Wilson always gets injured and with the amount of games we'll be playing Isak will need to be rotated. Ekitike can also play out wide too and so can cover there as well at times. I don't think people realise how badly PSG managed him this past season. A good amount of times I watched them in games they were winning comfortably in Ligue 1 and he never came on. This is what caused him to get frustrated in the first place. PSG were not innocent in the whole mess of a situation at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, KaKa said: This is not true. He'll get plenty more game time both coming off the bench and occasionally starting as Wilson always gets injured and with the amount of games we'll be playing Isak will need to be rotated. Ekitike can also play out wide too and so can cover there as well at times. I don't think people realise how badly PSG managed him this past season. A good amount of times I watched them in games they were winning comfortably in Ligue 1 and he never came on. This is what caused him to get frustrated in the first place. PSG were not innocent in the whole mess of a situation at all. Well it is true. He'd be 3rd choice in any position here, which is where he's at now. Unless he's had a rude awakening or a complete personality transplant, then this one isn't worth the trouble. Much rather have JP here, better all round player, and much better attitude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 (edited) I'd still take him - just has the feel of every other players who's left PSG only to turn out class elsewhere. Furthermore, anyone Luis Campos has cast his eye on deserves a second look Edited April 12, 2023 by Thumbheed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Dokko said: Well it is true. He'd be 3rd choice in any position here, which is where he's at now. Unless he's had a rude awakening or a complete personality transplant, then this one isn't worth the trouble. Much rather have JP here, better all round player, and much better attitude. Yeah, I guess the club will be making the final call on it. Howe really liked him though and a lot of leg work went into trying to do a deal. The rumour is PSG are looking to loan him out initially too with an option then to purchase as it works out better for them FFP wise that way. That would also suit us massively form an FFP point of view too. I don't think he handled things that well last season, but he certainly had some reason to be dissatisfied with his opportunities, especially when PSG are so dominant in that league and could have easily put him on more regularly when they were easily winning games, but it didn't really happen. Edited April 12, 2023 by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, Thumbheed said: I'd still take him - just has the feel of every other players who's left PSG only to turn out class elsewhere. Furthermore, anyone Luis Campos has cast his eye on deserves a second look Yeah, think I agree really. I'd be happy with either him or Pedro. Watford might be a pain in the backside again over Pedro's fee and so it will be good to have another option, especially as it seems he'll be available on loan initially. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Would the Qatari at PSG even be willing to deal with our owners? I strongly believe part of the reason they went for him in the first place is to avoid us getting a top talent from right under their nose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, KaKa said: Yeah, I guess the club will be making the final call on it. Howe really liked him though and a lot of leg work went into trying to do a deal. the rumour is PSG are looking to loan him out initially too with an option then to purchase as it works out better for them FFP wise that way. That would also suit us massively form an FFP point of view too. I don't think he handled things that well last season, but he certainly had some reason to be dissatisfied with his opportunities, especially when PSG are so dominant in that league and could have easily put him on more regularly when they were easily winning games, but it didn't really happen. A loan to see what he's about isn't such a bad place to be. Would he want to come? Would he see it as a step down and need to swallow some pride? Would we deal with his agent again? Lots of questions on this lad and his situation, then he has to settle in a new Country, a cold region, away from the dazzle of Paris. JP on the other hand, already settled in the Country, is ready to step up, hasn't spat his dummy with Watford keeping him in the Championship and if Watford miss out on promotion, then its 100% certain he'll leave and on his terms after staying this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Dokko said: A loan to see what he's about isn't such a bad place to be. Would he want to come? Would he see it as a step down and need to swallow some pride? Would we deal with his agent again? Lots of questions on this lad and his situation, then he has to settle in a new Country, a cold region, away from the dazzle of Paris. JP on the other hand, already settled in the Country, is ready to step up, hasn't spat his dummy with Watford keeping him in the Championship and if Watford miss out on promotion, then its 100% certain he'll leave and on his terms after staying this season. Guess we'll find out! Two real talents though, so would be happy either way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
prefabtoon Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Hope He is sat on the PSG bench for the rest of his career, He and his agent Messed us about for 2 windows, Its the old adage be careful what you wish for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Given we need more bodies into the squad (regardless of which European competition we're in) and we need to tiptoe around FFP it wouldn't surprise me if we brought him in on loan. We obviously like(d) him and made him a top target in the past and it makes sense if a deal can be done. Loan him in the summer and the cash can be spent in other areas to bulk the squad out and it makes sense imo. All of that depends entirely on the lad NOT being an absolute cunt, obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 14 minutes ago, midds said: Given we need more bodies into the squad (regardless of which European competition we're in) and we need to tiptoe around FFP it wouldn't surprise me if we brought him in on loan. We obviously like(d) him and made him a top target in the past and it makes sense if a deal can be done. Loan him in the summer and the cash can be spent in other areas to bulk the squad out and it makes sense imo. All of that depends entirely on the lad NOT being an absolute cunt, obviously. I think he has already proved he is, so no thanks. Celebrating goals in training like he has won the world cup! Loan or not, he is not the player we need Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, midds said: Given we need more bodies into the squad (regardless of which European competition we're in) and we need to tiptoe around FFP it wouldn't surprise me if we brought him in on loan. We obviously like(d) him and made him a top target in the past and it makes sense if a deal can be done. Loan him in the summer and the cash can be spent in other areas to bulk the squad out and it makes sense imo. All of that depends entirely on the lad NOT being an absolute cunt, obviously. A cunt will always be a cunt. Plus cannot see him dumping his agent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Just now, Hudson said: A cunt will always be a cunt. Plus cannot see him dumping his agent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 This business about him being a cunt is a bit weird like. Gets the opportunity to play for the most prestigious club in his country and one of the biggest in the world and fans of Newcastle United get put out because he doesn't pick them? IIRC PSG came late to the party and were in the middle of a manager change so of course you'd hang around to see what they had to say. Totally agree his agent sounds like a cunt but the lads 19 years old ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, Thumbheed said: Totally agree his agent sounds like a cunt but the lads 19 years old ffs. Don’t want to sound pedantic but he’s going to be 21 this June. Still young and learning though, yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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