MorganBarasi Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 40 minutes ago, mighty__mag said: Not completely accurate, Pep has always said if a player doesn't wish to stay he will never stand in their way. I get that though, Pep demands a lot, and he needs to know everyone pulls in the same direction. Don't be alarmed if those FY's fracture with the Saudi landscape set to dominate football, you mentioned generations, I don't doubt City, but the Saudi football grab could change everything. I watched Foden play at LB when he was 17 - Pep never loaned him out for a reason. Around Silva/DeBryune/Silva/Kompany/Fernandinho etc. Sancho is the same school. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, MorganBarasi said: I watched Foden play at LB when he was 17 - Pep never loaned him out for a reason. Around Silva/DeBryune/Silva/Kompany/Fernandinho etc. Sancho is the same school. You're right, with Lewis he is so good he can play multiple positions, they're training them now to do it all, attacking fullback is probably the best position to adapt to multiple positions, I can see how Foden would evolve to where he started to where he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganBarasi Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 16 minutes ago, mighty__mag said: You're right, with Lewis he is so good he can play multiple positions, they're training them now to do it all, attacking fullback is probably the best position to adapt to multiple positions, I can see how Foden would evolve to where he started to where he is. Grealish doesn't score Rashforford's goal. He gets the ball, cuts inside. Rashford from LW scores goal, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Vickery on the radio earlier saying he had a stinker against Uruguay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, LFEE said: Vickery on the radio earlier saying he had a stinker against Uruguay. Trying to get himself dropped so that he can go 100% for Newcastle with Tonali’s impending ban. Great commitment from Bruno Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 17 minutes ago, LFEE said: Vickery on the radio earlier saying he had a stinker against Uruguay. Half watched it. They all did, wouldn't say he was noticeably worse than anyone in midfield for Brazil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Disco said: Half watched it. They all did, wouldn't say he was noticeably worse than anyone in midfield for Brazil. Got the impression Valverde was excellent and ran him ragged? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, LFEE said: Got the impression Valverde was excellent and ran him ragged? Valverde, Ugarte and De La Cruz ran all over the Brazilian midfield. Casemiro was rubbish as well but Bruno didn't offer anything when he got on the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Haven't watched any of Uruguay in a while but that midfield with Bielsa sounds tasty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 56 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: Haven't watched any of Uruguay in a while but that midfield with Bielsa sounds tasty. They’re actually watchable now which is a big step forward. They’ve finally peddled all the older players as well so they can play in a Bielsa manner. Next qualifier is against the Argies which should be canny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Isn't the current Brazil manager the guy that doesn't believe in positions (or positional football, at least)? Some video was linked to it and all the football hipsters call it 'relationism' (ffs). Sounds like it could either be class or absolutely shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Not sure if this has been posted. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/67161658 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 On 18/10/2023 at 19:45, Gallowgate Toon said: Isn't the current Brazil manager the guy that doesn't believe in positions (or positional football, at least)? Some video was linked to it and all the football hipsters call it 'relationism' (ffs). Sounds like it could either be class or absolutely shite. There's definitely some theory in that. We've had a few managers in the Ashley era that definitely followed the same philosophy including far less training sessions and fucking off on holiday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 That relationism stuff was really fascinating actually, don't know if it's the root of Brazil's problems but I found it really interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 It's sort of interesting, although it's kinda not new, in ways it's close to the actual old Total Football idea of all players able to play all positions, however that evolved away more to have fluidity but still you know a CB is a CB. Keegan loved to turn his CBs into defensive players mind, albeit that was more to make things more attacking one feels. We shall see if it is the next big thing but instituting it will be difficult with international side particularly one with lots of high profile players all over the world, one thing to do it with a smaller country where you can get the players together more young and pick from a league more with similar styles. I just watched some explanations of it and it ends up looking, oh that looks like all the players going to one side of the pitch, all you need is someone good at distributing and you can bypass most the team... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tiresias said: It's sort of interesting, although it's kinda not new, in ways it's close to the actual old Total Football idea of all players able to play all positions, however that evolved away more to have fluidity but still you know a CB is a CB. Keegan loved to turn his CBs into defensive players mind, albeit that was more to make things more attacking one feels. We shall see if it is the next big thing but instituting it will be difficult with international side particularly one with lots of high profile players all over the world, one thing to do it with a smaller country where you can get the players together more young and pick from a league more with similar styles. I just watched some explanations of it and it ends up looking, oh that looks like all the players going to one side of the pitch, all you need is someone good at distributing and you can bypass most the team... Everyone seems to talk about how unpredictable it is but it seems pretty easy to overcome, in all honesty. Like almost everything tactical in football, it's been seen before in some guise or another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 A midfield of Casemiro and Bruno against a Bielsa midfield including Fede Valverde is going to get hammered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Would prefer bruno to get his fifth yellow against palace tomorrow, miss wolves and be back for Manu. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Love these two! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 4 hours ago, buzza said: Would prefer bruno to get his fifth yellow against palace tomorrow, miss wolves and be back for Manu. I’d rather him get it against wolves and miss the Man Utd cup game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Just now, SUPERTOON said: I’d rather him get it against wolves and miss the Man Utd cup game The suspension won’t count in the cup will it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, BeloEmre said: The suspension won’t count in the cup will it? It did for Rodri against us didn’t it ? His was a red mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Just now, SUPERTOON said: It did for Rodri against us didn’t it ? His was a red mind. I don’t think yellow counts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 5 yellows in the PL only count for PL. A red card counts in any domestic competition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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