Bruno Guimarães

[r0cafella]

Just now, SUPERTOON said:

Same for any player tbh.

Aye of course. Doesn’t mean he will come cheap. 

[SUPERTOON]

Just now, r0cafella said:

Aye of course. Doesn’t mean he will come cheap. 

I reckon 70/80 million would do it.

[aussiemag]

They paid 100 mill for Grealish? Put up or piss off. 

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said:

I reckon 70/80 million would do it.

I don’t think so. I think we would need the clause value at least. He’s got a long contract and they have form for paying out clauses. 

[Dr Venkman]

14 minutes ago, madras said:

The newest addition to the Marvel Universe.

[80]

1 hour ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said:

He doesnt want the move. He wants to be captain here, man. 

I reckon so. I'm a bit nervous after the last few days, but it looks like we've cleared our decks successfully and I believe we've got room to do some pretty serious spending for the rest of this summer. I don't think he'd be trying to force his way out for a lowball offer in those circumstances, I think he's ready for another big season with us.

[The College Dropout]

I agree with a lot of what you've said @80. The sales happening for 1 July strongly indicate that we needed Minteh, Anderson + at least +£1 to be confident of PSR compliance.

 

And we clearly SCRAMBLED to get there. The scramble can't have been the plan from January. We did the most "PSR Deadline Day" business out of everyone right? 3 transfers out basically. Like the actual transfer window, you would want to sort it earlier than later.

 

The thing that makes the most sense - in January - is selling Bruno for his release clause. That clears all PSR concerns and gives us some leeway to buy a player or two. We must've known getting good money for Almiron, Wilson & co. might prove difficult. That might've been the preferred route but the Bruno route might've been the most realistic.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

6 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

I agree with a lot of what you've said @80. The sales happening for 1 July strongly indicate that we needed Minteh, Anderson + at least +£1 to be confident of PSR compliance.

 

And we clearly SCRAMBLED to get there. The scramble can't have been the plan from January. We did the most "PSR Deadline Day" business out of everyone right? 3 transfers out basically. Like the actual transfer window, you would want to sort it earlier than later.

 

The thing that makes the most sense - in January - is selling Bruno for his release clause. That clears all PSR concerns and gives us some leeway to buy a player or two. We must've known getting good money for Almiron, Wilson & co. might prove difficult. That might've been the preferred route but the Bruno route might've been the most realistic.

 

Well in that case I'm glad we didn't do it. 

[Adam P]

Posted 3 hours ago

 

"Regardless of whether they had managed to get players out before June 30, Newcastle were always going to be able to spend from July 1 — but recouping more than £60million gives them a greater capacity to invest, as that permits breathing space across the new three-year rolling PSR period.

With 2021-22, the first season post-takeover, dropping off the books, that means a loss of £70.7m is removed from the calculation.

[KaKa]

2 hours ago, r0cafella said:

Nah if Bruno wants to leave we will sell that I’ve got no doubt. 

 

When the release clause was agreed with Bruno there would have been discussions to come to an agreement on the minimum value we would be willing to let him leave for, as well as that window of opportunity we had in place.

 

Even if Bruno did want to leave, I cannot imagine him forcing us to take less money, at an inconvenient time for us.

 

And so if they weren't willing to meet the clause during the window that was available, and think they can come in later for less money or even for equal the clause, it ain't happening.

 

The later they leave it, the greater the disruption to us, and so the higher the price above the £100 million clause.

[huss9]

2 hours ago, r0cafella said:

Nah if Bruno wants to leave we will sell that I’ve got no doubt. 

he's already said he wants to stay but will leave if the club need him to for PSR.

[TRon]

2 hours ago, STM said:

If City come in, even for 80m we've got problems. Naturally Bruno will want the move and we will have to talk to them. We may get more money but the point is that we would lose Bruno.

 

I don't think this is a big a problem as in the past. If we sell, we sell on our terms. That means making a massive profit and using that to buy someone who would be the next Bruno. The alternative is just holding onto players until their contracts or their value runs down.

 

Of course we aren't looking to sell, we would rather build our team around Bruno, but until we are playing regularly in the CL we remain in the transition period where some trading is inevitable.

[ponsaelius]

I'm not even now convinced that it was Bruno's side that pushed for the release clause. Given the timing of it before the PSR deadline, and our subsequent relatively panicked sales, I think we arranged it as a potential PSR solution that would be palatable from a PR perspective due to the clause.

[PauloGeordio]

 

[Lish007]

On 02/07/2024 at 12:00, ponsaelius said:

I'm not even now convinced that it was Bruno's side that pushed for the release clause. Given the timing of it before the PSR deadline, and our subsequent relatively panicked sales, I think we arranged it as a potential PSR solution that would be palatable from a PR perspective due to the clause.

Exactly what I think. Which makes me feel more secure that Bruno definitely wants to stay and make history here. I think his hand was forced in order to get the new contract which is why he said those things in interviews. 

[TRon]

52 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said:

 

 

 

Didn't even register that this was ongoing. Might watch me some of that.

[PauloGeordio]

51 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

 

Didn't even register that this was ongoing. Might watch me some of that.

It’s a good Bruno fix! 

[PauloGeordio]

Come home sweet Prince, ya can pick Wor Anthony up on the way too!

[Nucasol]

Real Madrid linked via Fijaches (?) in Spain:

 

https://www.caughtoffside.com/2024/07/08/real-madrid-bruno-guimaraes-newcastle-united/amp/

[jack j]

Tchouameni camavinga valverde. Presume Bellingham will drop further back at times with them signing mbappe. Not sure where he's fitting in there unless they sell one of the French lads

[Abacus]

39 minutes ago, Nucasol said:

Real Madrid linked via Fijaches (?) in Spain:

 

https://www.caughtoffside.com/2024/07/08/real-madrid-bruno-guimaraes-newcastle-united/amp/

That would be a kick in the pants. I couldn't blame him if he went there, even if I think it could be a mistake for him. That said, no doubt he'd have a chance of lifting the CL trophy.

 

I liked how the article said we've lost the 'safety net' of the £100m release clause. Get in the sea 

[PauloGeordio]

🖤🤍 39 now and counting!

[Tsunami]

He’s renewed his tenancy on the house in Darras. Pretty confident he wants and expects to stay, was always his preference.

[Nucasol]

5 minutes ago, Tsunami said:

He’s renewed his tenancy on the house in Darras. Pretty confident he wants and expects to stay, was always his preference.

[The Prophet]