England's Dan Burn

[pubteam]

I find it quite strange that we spent nearly £70 million on fullbacks and Dan Burn still starts every game. He really should defensive backup, not our starting left back.

[54]

Was a fucking rock today. 

[Aiston]

  On 19/09/2023 at 18:57, pubteam said:

I find it quite strange that we spent nearly £70 million on fullbacks and Dan Burn still starts every game. He really should defensive backup, not our starting left back.

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We've basically signed two fullbacks for the future.

[Weezertron]

Not that I want Burn out, but we have a lot of games in the next 2 weeks. It'd be daft for Eddie not to rotate him out for at least one game, and we can see how it goes. 

 

I am really interested in whether Eddie will stick to the plan of rotation, beyond the same 2-3 positions. 

 

 

[Pilko]

10/10 for grit, determination, effort, crucial big headers at the back and leadership.

 

3/10 for his distribution

 

Well in Dan, what a night for him that must have been.

[Newcastle Fan]

He's a really weird one, you don't want him to be playing but you also don't want to be playing without him

[Holmesy]

  On 19/09/2023 at 19:05, Newcastle Fan said:

He's a really weird one, you don't want him to be playing but you also don't want to be playing without him

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No room for sentiment if we aim to compete for top honours. I think we’ll see very quickly how much more dynamic we can be as a team when he’s replaced by a proper full back. 
 

[black_n_white]

Great defending and good off the ball positioning, terrible with the ball tonight though.

[TBG]

Needs to be shown his place is guaranteed.

 

Start Dummett on Sunday.

[gbandit]

Really think we’ll look a different side once we have Hall in and match fit. We are so hampered in developing attacks down our left side. It’ll be transformative when Hall is up to speed

[Gallowgate Toon]

Another game where you see the absolute worst and best in him 

 

[gbandit]

  On 19/09/2023 at 19:41, Gallowgate Toon said:

Another game where you see the absolute worst and best in him 

 

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He’s so far away from being an LB, he’s a great option behind Botman if Botman picks up an injury at CB

[TRon]

  On 19/09/2023 at 18:58, 54 said:

Was a fucking rock today. 

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Which is fine if you are parking the bus Bruce style. Going the other way, he's a liability.

[Beth]

It's a pity Targett has gone off a cliff since his injury, Hall is too raw imo.

 

 

Edited September 19, 2023 by Beth

[nemtizz]

£35m on a player that is too raw is crazy.

[pubteam]

  On 19/09/2023 at 19:42, gbandit said:

He’s so far away from being an LB, he’s a great option behind Botman if Botman picks up an injury at CB

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Couldn't agree more, if we ever want to play free flowing football he needs to go from left back. 

[andycap]

The amount of unforced errors this lad has in his locker is astounding. We are comfortable knocking a ball about the backline then he underhits a basic pass to botman which starts a panic in our defence. I bet you botman is bad with his nerves ? 

[The College Dropout]

Rinsed by Chukwueze again and again. Didn’t stop any crosses coming in. Passing was absolutely awful.  
 

But he was crucial defensively at times. And I think he got his head onto every set piece. 

[Erikse]

Dan Burn has featured in every single league game since joining us except for the first one vs Everton right after he joined, meaning 59 games in a row. He has started 56 of them.

 

And for those who thinks his main position is left back: he has played 317 games at centre back (21 with us) and just 90 as a left back (44 of them with us). So basically he has only featured in 46 games as a left back in his entire carreer before joining us.

 

 

Edited September 22, 2023 by Erikse

[Gawalls]

  On 19/09/2023 at 18:57, pubteam said:

I find it quite strange that we spent nearly £70 million on fullbacks and Dan Burn still starts every game. He really should defensive backup, not our starting left back.

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This gets me as well - as much as I love Howe it does seem he’s allergic to rotation and change at times.

[Gawalls]

  On 19/09/2023 at 19:58, The College Dropout said:

Rinsed by Chukwueze again and again. Didn’t stop any crosses coming in. Passing was absolutely awful.  
 

But he was crucial defensively at times. And I think he got his head onto every set piece. 

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It also seems every team sets up to target him as well now.

[GEFAFWISP]

  On 23/09/2023 at 08:42, Gawalls said:

It also seems every team sets up to target him as well now.

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Not even sure it's a conscious effort some of the time, more teams finding the path of least resistance to creating chances by attacking our left hand side. Bit of both really to me but it's clear they get less change out of Trippier/Almiron or Murphy than Burn/Gordon or Barnes.

[Coffee_Johnny]

  On 19/09/2023 at 18:57, pubteam said:

I find it quite strange that we spent nearly £70 million on fullbacks and Dan Burn still starts every game. He really should defensive backup, not our starting left back.

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[Yorkie]

I love Burn, like. I don't really agree with the 'CB playing at LB' assessment any more. What's the role of a full-back? To defend the wide areas and then to support the attack by providing an option on the deck; to do overlapping and inside runs; to make through balls; to get to the byline and to make crosses. He does these things, just with much less emphasis on crossing. His passing ability is sometimes left wanting because it isn't his strength. He's definitely a full-back though, just not a complete footballer. He could play that position for most teams in the league. 

 

The fact he has fully transitioned there is actually a problem for us though. If the Brighton game is anything to go by then he is categorically not at the standard we need our third choice CB to be. 

[Fezzle]

  On 23/09/2023 at 12:11, GEFAFWISP said:

Not even sure it's a conscious effort some of the time, more teams finding the path of least resistance to creating chances by attacking our left hand side. Bit of both really to me but it's clear they get less change out of Trippier/Almiron or Murphy than Burn/Gordon or Barnes.

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It's abundantly clear they do target him, I'd have serious doubts if they didn't. Howes only blind spot in my eyes, obviously not helped by targets injury/lack of form