Mikky Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Alberto2005 said: I'm torn on this one, he's been really solid and the fee is great but I think we can do better and I don't imagine he'll want to come as backup. that’s why he left Villa We have to buy 2 LBs though so he’ll have competition regardless Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Just now, Alberto2005 said: I'm torn on this one, he's been really solid and the fee is great but I think we can do better and I don't imagine he'll want to come as backup. Sometimes it’s better to be a part of something than not. This something is a big something. He won’t have felt the love like this before. He wants the vibe injecting. He’ll sign, back up or not! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 (edited) I do wonder if ASM's unpredictability and high risk style of play impacts Targetts ability to attack. Must he really difficult playing behind him knowing he's not gonna track back if you commit to an overlap and when he loses the ball as often as he can. Should 100% sign him. Edited May 18, 2022 by Thumbheed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Thumbheed said: I do wonder if ASM's unpredictability and high risk style of play impacts Targetts ability to attack. Must he really difficult playing behind him knowing he's not gonna track back if you commit to an overlap and when he loses the ball as often as he can. Should 100% sign him. Not familiar enough with Targetts game before he joined us to say if it affects him one way or another. I do think it dictates the type of fullback we play on that side though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 15 minutes ago, Alberto2005 said: I'm torn on this one, he's been really solid and the fee is great but I think we can do better and I don't imagine he'll want to come as backup. I know what you mean - I'd also be more excited by someone like Lodi (and preferably would have both), but I think there are actual holes right throughout other parts of the team that are more pressing for next year. Target doesn't strike me as an urgent weak link at least, and he's a known quantity. Instead I'd be looking at a striker (possibly two), keeper, central defence, arguably both wingers depending on your view of St Max (and anyway as cover), defensive midfielder, creative number 10... Depends where the priorities are really, as that's already more than half a team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Plus, if you bought him for what's been quoted and decided there were better options a year or two later, on the basis of what we've seen so far he's not going to lose much value if you decide to sell him on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Proven that he performs in this set up and league. Plus the price seems more than fair. I think there are numerous areas that need upgrading before him in the starting lineup. Striker, winger/wide forward, DM, CB and GK. He has been brilliant bar the Spurs game, when everyone was off it and complete and utter shite. I'd sign him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 I trust our manager regardless. But we must also remember that we’ve had pure incompetence and Matt Ritchie playing that position in the seasons before Targett got here. Any significant improvement is going to appear like we’ve got someone world class in there.. the manager works with him every day so he’ll know what’s what and won’t be afraid to make an unpopular decision if needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 22 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said: I trust our manager regardless. But we must also remember that we’ve had pure incompetence and Matt Ritchie playing that position in the seasons before Targett got here. Any significant improvement is going to appear like we’ve got someone world class in there.. the manager works with him every day so he’ll know what’s what and won’t be afraid to make an unpopular decision if needed. It would have been interesting to compare Targett to Trippier if the latter had played more games. When I read the ratings given to Targett and words like "stunning", "excellent", etc. then it makes me think how would people describe Trippier? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Well seeing as he's made it quite clear he wants to stay, and with his character and performances so far, I'd hate to be in Howe's position if I wasn't planning on making the move permanent. It would feel like I'm about to shoot Bambi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 10 minutes ago, Sean said: Well seeing as he's made it quite clear he wants to stay, and with his character and performances so far, I'd hate to be in Howe's position if I wasn't planning on making the move permanent. It would feel like I'm about to shoot Bambi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 I think that he is a really solid full back and seems like a real genuine guy. His attacking play is limited partly because of ASM being in front of him. A couple of times on Monday he was trying to get Maxi in position but it fell on deaf ears so must be frustrating for him. At the moment they don't really compliment each other but once Eddie gets Maxi sorted out it will be fine. As far as people keep saying he's good but we could do better, you could apply that crazy logic to everyone in the team. It takes time to rebuild a team regardless of how much money you have. We aren't going to replace everyone overnight and I'm more than happy to watch these owners build it brick by brick over a period of time. I think we will bring in a couple of new players maybe 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 It all depends on whether Howe wants to play a flat back four or not IMO. If we want to play four at the back, Targett at the supposed price is a no-brainer IMO. He's excellent defensively, competent in possession and is a decent crosser of the ball. If we want to go with wing backs, I can see how we might want someone who's more of an attacking threat on that flank. I suspect we'll possibly go between the two systems but signing a guy who's purely a left back for a team that will spend a lot of time playing without one might not make sense. Do we think he could play on the left side of 3 CBs? If yes, he might have a bit more versatility as a squad option? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, jackyboy said: I think that he is a really solid full back and seems like a real genuine guy. His attacking play is limited partly because of ASM being in front of him. A couple of times on Monday he was trying to get Maxi in position but it fell on deaf ears so must be frustrating for him. At the moment they don't really compliment each other but once Eddie gets Maxi sorted out it will be fine. As far as people keep saying he's good but we could do better, you could apply that crazy logic to everyone in the team. It takes time to rebuild a team regardless of how much money you have. We aren't going to replace everyone overnight and I'm more than happy to watch these owners build it brick by brick over a period of time. I think we will bring in a couple of new players maybe 3. Everyone else in the team is a Newcastle player, Targett would be a new player. If Howe thinks he can get a player more suited to what he wants then it would not make sense to buy Targett. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 There's a lot of value in a player who definitely gets it in the dressing room, fits in enjoys it, listens to manager and the fans already appreciate. NEw player in may look fantastic on youtube but not fit in, so I would find it slightly extraordinary if we don't sign him. It wouldnt shock me if we bought competition in fairly short order mind, our team needs depth as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillingtonMag Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Be mental not to sign him always a possibility an alternative might flop and we've let a great opportunity pass us by, think of some of the shite we've had at full back over the years man ? absolute no brainer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 1 minute ago, WillingtonMag said: Be mental not to sign him always a possibility an alternative might flop and we've let a great opportunity pass us by, think of some of the shite we've had at full back over the years man ? absolute no brainer. ?? He’s risk free! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 13m Jesus christ sign him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maze Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Dunno why it’s even a discussion at all. Signing him is a no-brainer. You could even thrown in Lodi, and we’d actually have something rare called depth and competition. Tasty stuff, I know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 20 minutes ago, STM said: 13m Jesus christ sign him. Steal him! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paullow Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, maze said: Dunno why it’s even a discussion at all. Signing him is a no-brainer. You could even thrown in Lodi, and we’d actually have something rare called depth and competition. Tasty stuff, I know. But the first sign of competition / losing his place at Villa he wanted to be away to play regular football, hence the loan. If he comes here permanently, it'll be to play first team football, and Lodi isn't going to switch from At Madrid to play second fiddle to Matt Targett. At this stage of our revival, especially with no European football, it'll be the likes of Dummett, Kraft, Manq, Lewis (minus one if we sell one) providing cover for either Targett or another first choice LB we bring in. We have to ask ourselves if Targett is still the answer in 2 years, if yes, sign him up, if not, possibly look for an upgrade, i.e. Lodi. He would at least be a familiar face should he sign permanently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 He played every single league game for Villa last season. Also looks like someone we can rely on to be fit most of the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Makes no sense not to sign him - he's earned it that is for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Inferior Acuña said: He played every single league game for Villa last season. Also looks like someone we can rely on to be fit most of the time. That’s good because his understudy is always injured Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Targett was also voted Villa's Players' Player of the season last year. So, clearly valued in their squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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