Heron Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, rgk_lfc said: Maybe I am being too harsh on philosophies. But I admire how adaptable Carlo is. Whatever be the squad, he does not place any requirement that I need this kind of player, etc. Doesn't throw any player under the bus publicly if they do not fit within his style. Just gets on with it. Feels like an old fashioned football coach. Presumably, he is a very good man manager, a motivator and charismatic behind the scenes. That in itself is a philosophy... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Just been checking out mancityfans.net A lesson in entitlement. Horrible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgk_lfc Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Heron said: Presumably, he is a very good man manager, a motivator and charismatic behind the scenes. That in itself is a philosophy... Agreed. I always got the feeling that he is a downright nice person who tries to do the right thing which is also a philosophy in itself. In 2005, when he lost the CL final to us, he was incredibly gracious, spent time with all of our players, congratulated each and every one of them. In 2007, when he defeated us, it was the same, spent time consoling our players than just celebrating. As a boss of Everton, he never tried to up the angst against us. During COVID lockdown, when Allison's dad passed away and Allison couldn't travel to Brazil, was among the first outside of LFC to reach out to Allison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 City nearly threw it away against Atleti towards the end of the 2nd tie as well. Think they have a bit of a mental block with this competition, look like they can fall apart defensively under any sort of pressure. As soon as the first went in you could tell they shit themselves. 1st leg against Madrid was great for the neutral but terrible from a City POV really. Should never have been a 4-3 with how the game went. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Just now, brummie said: Just been checking out mancityfans.net A lesson in entitlement. Horrible. They were playing the hankie wavers though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 27 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: So have I, pretty sure being 2 goals ahead and 2 minutes away from the CL final would easily top my Shaka grasping at Fenton's shot PTSD dreams like. Of course they'll be crestfallen tonight but surely they won't be feeling it as keenly or with a sense of foreshadowed historical significance as we hypothetically would? They've won 13 major honours in the last ten years or so, not to mention having actually made the final of this last year, and they'll fully anticipate being there again on multiple occasions in the future. I can't see the name 'Rodrygo' sounding anything like as poisonous to Man City fans in thirty years as Fenton/Collymore does to us... Edit, sorry @Kid Icarus, completely missed the rest of the discussion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Literally closed the stream on 88 minutes thinking it was over and have just seen the score and highlights now. WTF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Adds a lot of spice to the title race mind. Would be neither surprise if City melt or batter everyone 5 nowt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, Flip said: His biggest error of the night was the handball by Cancelo that probably should've rendered in a penalty for Real Madrid. I thought he did well until ET. There he made a few errors, but none that had a big effect on the game. Well Casemiro escaped two very strong shouts for yellows,and the ref was right there both times. Then the ridiculous Sterling booking that clearly wasn`t a foul, then allowing the second period of extra time being interrupted and even contributed to, etc etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, rgk_lfc said: Agreed. I always got the feeling that he is a downright nice person who tries to do the right thing which is also a philosophy in itself. In 2005, when he lost the CL final to us, he was incredibly gracious, spent time with all of our players, congratulated each and every one of them. In 2007, when he defeated us, it was the same, spent time consoling our players than just celebrating. As a boss of Everton, he never tried to up the angst against us. During COVID lockdown, when Allison's dad passed away and Allison couldn't travel to Brazil, was among the first outside of LFC to reach out to Allison. It's old school, but it works (and always will) - man management is just as important as any tactic and if you treat people with respect you'll earn respect. Then people will run through walls for you... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgk_lfc Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, Heron said: It's old school, but it works (and always will) - man management is just as important as any tactic and if you treat people with respect you'll earn respect. Then people will run through walls for you... I agree. I remember in 2013, when Bayern defeated Dortmund in the final. There was a lot of tension before the final as it was like a Bundesliga final, Bayern had just poached Gotze and announced it before the final, etc. Once Bayern won, Heynckes forbade his players to celebrate until Dortmund players had left the pitch. He actually spent more time with the Dortmund players and Klopp than his own players. In the press conference, he said something along the lines of (I am paraphrasing from memory) "I know what it is to loose finals. I don't get any joy in celebrating in front of players and fans who are hurting. " It reflected a humility, an empathy, something I feel is missing from leaders nowadays in all walks of life. Ancelotti I feel is a bit of the same. Old school, as you said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Carlo is the boss, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 17 minutes ago, Heron said: It's old school, but it works (and always will) - man management is just as important as any tactic and if you treat people with respect you'll earn respect. Then people will run through walls for you... Is that your Brucey? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 18 minutes ago, Holloway said: Well Casemiro escaped two very strong shouts for yellows,and the ref was right there both times. Then the ridiculous Sterling booking that clearly wasn`t a foul, then allowing the second period of extra time being interrupted and even contributed to, etc etc I mean, with all due respect, if the ref was bad than VAR was worse. Because if I remember correctly Laporte slapped Modric didn't he as well? Potentially a red card early in the game for City as well as a missed penalty. Basically the two biggest decisions that he shies away from were in favour of City. The Sterling booking at no effect on the game whatsoever. I'm not saying the ref was great or defending him, I just don't think he favoured Real at all. As for the extra time I do agree, seems to be a problem with referees that they don't take stoppages in extra time into effect. Think it was Italy v Belgium at the Euros where the same happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 53 minutes ago, Jaqen said: One of the few managers where it doesn't look like the job has aged him at all either. Still has a class head of hair somehow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Absolutely bottle jobs. Unacceptable from City. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 46 minutes ago, neesy111 said: Honestly think this defeat is bad news for us. City know how to win the league, they'll want revenge. I think the opposite, I think what happened tonight isn't something you get over quickly and that will impact them in the league Whether it affects them enough in our game I'm not sure but absolutely even more convinced that Liverpool will win the league now That was a devastating blow to City, you could see it from their reaction once the tie was levelled Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 City will likely turn us over but it's as good a chance as any to get a result. This has happened so much to them now that some genuine despondency might creep in for a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said: I think the opposite, I think what happened tonight isn't something you get over quickly and that will impact them in the league Whether it affects them enough in our game I'm not sure but absolutely even more convinced that Liverpool will win the league now That was a devastating blow to City, you could see it from their reaction once the tie was levelled They had similar blow vs Spurs in 2019 in another title fight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Gallowgate Toon said: City will likely turn us over but it's as good a chance as any to get a result. This has happened so much to them now that some genuine despondency might creep in for a bit. That's what I'm hoping too And this is the most brutal of all the times they've been knocked out (takes over the Spurs one) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 1 minute ago, neesy111 said: They had similar blow vs Spurs in 2019 in another title fight. Yeah but this is an accumulation now, knocked out by Lyon, then lost a final they were expected to win and then tonight Think it will hurt them this time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Funny as fuck if City win fuck all this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Just now, toon25 said: Funny as fuck if City win fuck all this year. The only downside to that is it probably means Liverpool do the quadruple Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Chelsea will beat Liverpool in the FA cup final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 15 minutes ago, Flip said: I mean, with all due respect, if the ref was bad than VAR was worse. Because if I remember correctly Laporte slapped Modric didn't he as well? Potentially a red card early in the game for City as well as a missed penalty. Basically the two biggest decisions that he shies away from were in favour of City. The Sterling booking at no effect on the game whatsoever. I'm not saying the ref was great or defending him, I just don't think he favoured Real at all. As for the extra time I do agree, seems to be a problem with referees that they don't take stoppages in extra time into effect. Think it was Italy v Belgium at the Euros where the same happened. Of course the Sterling card had an effect,the whole of the man city camp went wtf are we up against here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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