joeyt Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 It happened so quickly there wasn't anything Dubravka could do in my opinion. It was mentioned in commentary but it was Bergkamp esque Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Burn and Dubravka both could have done better but it's splitting hairs really. As for VAR, I think this new 'instant' offside tech they're looking to bring in will be great, that and spotting off the ball incidents are a good use of the technology imo. In general though the ref either needs to be given full uninterrupted control (essentially removing VAR outside of offsides and off ball issues) or the exact opposite, and have his decisions during big calls being completely overruled when and where necessary. This process we have currently is completely mental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 16 hours ago, GWN said: they did man , listen to it back Howe confirmed in post match interview ref didn't review pen using VAR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 (edited) VAR checked the pen but the ref wasn't called over to review it. The VAR team must have been happy with whatever Coote's perspective of it was which is baffling given he gave a corner. Edited March 14, 2022 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 The elbow could have been red or yellow, this ref was not big enough to give it. The penalty decision was awful, VAR should have notified the ref for him to look again at it on screen. There does not seem to be any clear criteria for these decisions, it is a farce. As for the team, i though we did a greta job and it looked like a point for us with no problem. The goal was sublime; the pass and the control of the ball were top class. It did look like Burn slipped a little while turining and lost a quarter of a yard on haverz, unlucky as he was majestic again... All in all, we played well and should have had more from the game, VAR made sure that we diddn´t get our point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 59 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: Rather than mic'ing up the VAR room and dragging out the officiating process any more I'd far rather they just get rid of it. So would I but that's not even worth discussing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Var doesn't get to the route cause of officials being absolutely incompetent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 The elbow was more red than yellow but not overly mad at that. The thing that makes it red for me was his elbow was higher than his head and he was nowhere near getting the ball. I know it's a different competition. But Koulibaly got a yellow card in the AFCON final for simply jumping with his elbows - didn't make contact or cause blood for an opponent, elbow wasn't even above his head. The penalty is a penalty. Simple. Robbed really. Positive thing is it shouldn't affect us too much this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Woke up feeling positive tbh. We played well, very organised and very well drilled. The effort is there, we understood our gameplan. We only lost because of VAR. That is fact. The team is such much better than 4 months ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 hour ago, joeyt said: It happened so quickly there wasn't anything Dubravka could do in my opinion. It was mentioned in commentary but it was Bergkamp esque Reminded me of the goal Suarez scored against us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Reminded me of the goal Suarez scored against us. Yep that's a great comparison, Colo in the position of Burn on that occasion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Still angry at the non-penalty and would be raging if we are still around the relegation zone. As it is, we will rightly focus on the games ahead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Also recall Ba being fouled by shite Colo (denial of goalscoring opportunity) and no red was given. Chelsea get all the calls... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 We were brilliant without the ball yesterday and generally pretty sloppy with it, by our recent standards. Chelsea were lucky that we were so sloppy, that we were missing key personnel that would have punished them, and also of course that the officials gifted them the game. So we weren't at our best, we had key players out and still we limited Chelsea to very few chances and would probably have won the game if given the decisions we should have been Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, LRD said: Also recall Ba being fouled by shite Colo (denial of goalscoring opportunity) and no red was given. Chelsea get all the calls... Was that not Carroll? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, Big Geordie said: Was that not Carroll? Ba. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2011/dec/03/newcastle-united-chelsea-david-luiz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Hanshithispantz said: Burn and Dubravka both could have done better but it's splitting hairs really. As for VAR, I think this new 'instant' offside tech they're looking to bring in will be great, that and spotting off the ball incidents are a good use of the technology imo. In general though the ref either needs to be given full uninterrupted control (essentially removing VAR outside of offsides and off ball issues) or the exact opposite, and have his decisions during big calls being completely overruled when and where necessary. This process we have currently is completely mental. At the risk of repeating myself, someone at the Premier League/UEFA/FIFA needs to publicly acknowledge what we all know: people make mistakes. Until that happens, and is reflected in policy, we won't get any closer to a working system. The 'clear and obvious' clause is a get out. They need to amend that to the VAR official disagreeing with the decision leading to requesting that the ref looks at it again. Edited March 14, 2022 by Dr Venkman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCK Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Gameplan nearly worked, which is the frustrating thing. But then, normally I woudn't have expected anything at Stamford Bridge, which shows how class Eddie Howe and the team are right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 In American football managers get to challenge on field decisions a number of times a game, would something like that work for decisions that maybe go overlooked? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, Mattoon said: In American football managers get to challenge on field decisions a number of times a game, would something like that work for decisions that maybe go overlooked? What difference would it make if the VAR ref is already sat there saying it wasn’t a mistake? As has been repeated, they’re saying a penalty wasn’t given because there wasn’t a foul. Nothing to do with it being clear or obvious, they’re saying Murphy went down too easily. If he listened to Howe and then changed his mind it’d open up one hell of a can of worms regarding influence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Didn't Colo boot Ba in the nose when Ba was at Chelsea too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 2 hours ago, samptime29 said: Woke up feeling positive tbh. We played well, very organised and very well drilled. The effort is there, we understood our gameplan. We only lost because of VAR. That is fact. The team is such much better than 4 months ago. We didn't lose because of VAR. We lost because two referees made the wrong decisions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 As long as you have the same poor referees, you can give them state-of-the-art technology and nothing will change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 I was at the game yesterday- my first away in about four years. Class atmosphere I thought, and so much positivity, such that conceding such a late goal was much less of a sickner than usual in a way, just ar shit, onwards. Also my first experience of safe standing - loved it. So nice leaning on the bar all game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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