Fantail Breeze Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 15 minutes ago, Danh1 said: Very true. I knew there’d be increased demand after the takeover but never expected this. Only going to get worse too. If you don’t have a ST now, the chance of getting one (and also access to away games) is next to none. It’ll be a closed shop for a long time. Not even sure what the answer is to give as many people opportunity as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: Without some way for fans to get onto the loyalty point ladder we'll have the same ~3-5k fans at every single away match. Not really. I've got 130 odd. I don't do as many as I used to due to having a family etc. Surely they still have to be worth something. Otherwise what is the point in the system? Edited June 26, 2022 by jack j Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: Only going to get worse too. If you don’t have a ST now, the chance of getting one (and also access to away games) is next to none. It’ll be a closed shop for a long time. Not even sure what the answer is to give as many people opportunity as possible. Extending the ground is the only way, but that’s long term and of course may not be possible, but that convo has been done to death. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, jack j said: Not really. I've got 130 odd. I don't do as many as I used to due to having a family etc. Surely they still have to be worth something. Otherwise what is the point in the system? So unless you know a ST holder with a high amount of points personally you'll never be able to go to an away game again. How do younger fans and kids get the experience of following us away from home? We just fucking them off? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 Or we could end up like Man City where we end up in every competition til April and it costs a bomb to go to every game, or it goes the other way and we aren't as successful as people want us to be. 55-60k would be more than enough in the long run when the novelty wares off again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 1 minute ago, jack j said: Or we could end up like Man City where we end up in every competition til April and it costs a bomb to go to every game, or it goes the other way and we aren't as successful as people want us to be. 55-60k would be more than enough in the long run when the novelty wares off again I agree pretty much. I think it might be a bit naive to think that the interest/demand will be this high in perpetuity. Even if it does, most of the top clubs have a waiting list. Anyway, hopefully whatever that mysterious "ballot" page is for will make sure there's at least a chance for people to get STs and/or away tickets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 A % of away tickets should 100% go into a ballot. Like others have touched on, it’ll become a closed shop, and those with 100s of points will just keep adding points when only going to 1 or 2 a season. They should never lose them points, but a ballot for a % of aways and building up points via all home games (ST holders should be awarded 5 or something for renewing too) as well as purchasing food/drink in SJP should be a way to build up points. Maybe purchases at club shop too (with a membership/ST). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 Wouldn’t be against a small percentage of away tickets being balloted to members as well as ST holders. Didn’t we used to do a ballet for ST holders for European away games? Could swear I remember filling in paper forms and sending to the Box Office. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Fantail Breeze said: Wouldn’t be against a small percentage of away tickets being balloted to members as well as ST holders. Didn’t we used to do a ballet for ST holders for European away games? Could swear I remember filling in paper forms and sending to the Box Office. Don't think many were prancing around like Anna Pavlova to go to Hapoel Bnei Sakhnin tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Chicken Dancer said: A % of away tickets should 100% go into a ballot. Like others have touched on, it’ll become a closed shop, and those with 100s of points will just keep adding points when only going to 1 or 2 a season. They should never lose them points, but a ballot for a % of aways and building up points via all home games (ST holders should be awarded 5 or something for renewing too) as well as purchasing food/drink in SJP should be a way to build up points. Maybe purchases at club shop too (with a membership/ST). What about the increase in corporate boxes getting away tickets surely that's more of a piss take then penalising someone who's went over the years and got the points Anyway as said in another post above I'd imagine the novelty will ware off soon enough and the opportunity will arise for others to get points Edited June 26, 2022 by jack j Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 Just now, jack j said: What about the increase in corporate boxes getting away tickets surely that's more of a piss take then penalising someone who's went over the years and got the points Don’t want people with points to get penalised at all. They should always get first dibs on tickets. But why shouldn’t others get the chance to build them up too? The argument that ‘plenty go to 0’ is basically redundant now. Realistically, it’ll take well over a decade to get 50+ points (which will get you fuck all now), and that’s assuming you go to absolutely every game that might go to 0. Understand football is mainly for the here and now, but we need to give future generations a fighting chance of having what we had Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 9 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: Don't think many were prancing around like Anna Pavlova to go to Hapoel Bnei Sakhnin tbh. This was before your time mate, well over 15 years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Fantail Breeze said: This was before your time mate, well over 15 years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoreboard82 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 I've used both sides of the loyalty point system to my advantage in the past. I've helped others by getting them away tickets and myself by gaining a point. Now that all my 182 pts have been wiped when I temporarily chucked it I've been to a few away games with someone elses help. It's a fair system if used correctly because these pts are hard earned. It's a closed shop now but we've all had the chance to build them during leaner times. That said, maybe you have to somehow start proving the person applying for the ticket is actually using the ticket. God knows how you would do that though. You see young kids at really popular away games who obviously haven't built up 100+ pts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) It seems very unfair that the same few people can fill every away end. The only way to go is to cheat the system both ways, where you get go and someone who isn't going gets illegal loyalty points. Crap solution. Not sure what would be better though, given demand will always be miles higher than supply. Edited June 27, 2022 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hovagod Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 I remember the game at QPR when we had secured promotion weeks earlier and it was a party. Don’t think points dipped under fifty, but the people I was next to were some painfully hip Londoners who clearly had no interest in the game. Inexplicable. Because even going with the theory that people use the points of others, it seems unlikely that these two were PM’ing folk on Newcastle online forum for spares. A mystery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) So is it tomorrow or Wednesday? Site still says tomorrow 10am. Edited June 27, 2022 by Sima Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Thank fuck, I'm heading to London on the train Wednesday morning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 What are you supposed to see when you click on the season tickets section of the ticket account? At the moment its just blank on the screen that I look at. I created an account for a family member who is a long term ST holder, as they should be in the running to get me a ST? But there's nothing on the site that states that they are eligible to apply tomorrow? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Wandy said: What are you supposed to see when you click on the season tickets section of the ticket account? At the moment its just blank on the screen that I look at. I created an account for a family member who is a long term ST holder, as they should be in the running to get me a ST? But there's nothing on the site that states that they are eligible to apply tomorrow? Blank screen means ineligible. You’d see the option to buy one otherwise. Edited June 27, 2022 by Fantail Breeze Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Just now, Fantail Breeze said: Blank screen means ineligible. You’d see the option to but one otherwise. How can they be ineligible when they have been a ST holder for nearly 30 years? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Wandy said: How can they be ineligible when they have been a ST holder for nearly 30 years? Those who already have a ST are ineligible to purchase another one tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 1 minute ago, NEEJ said: Those who already have a ST are ineligible to purchase another one tomorrow. Ah really? Bah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infatuation Junkie Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 I rang ticket office earlier. My son cant get one as he is 8 and has not had membership or bought a ticket. My fault for buying all the tickets in mine and my lasses name. So I am going to try and get my lass and me a ST and transfer hers into his name. As she is in my purchase list. I will see if I can allocate one to her. Worth a try. We are both eligible. I have checked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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