Froggy Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 So from this forum we have the following overrated team: Cech Cole Van Dijk Ramos Neville Modric De Bruyne Scholes Ronaldo Pele Messi Subs: Ederson Xabi Alonso Ronaldinho Rooney Salah Could probably beat most teams in history to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Just now, Froggy said: So from this forum we have the following overrated team: Cech Cole Van Dijk Ramos Neville Modric De Bruyne Scholes Ronaldo Pele Messi Subs: Ederson Xabi Alonso Ronaldinho Rooney Salah Could probably beat most teams in history to be honest. I love the fact that I'm shaking my head at every one except the one I mentioned - eye of the beholder and all that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4fzeK3SQa4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, Froggy said: So from this forum we have the following overrated team: Cech Cole Van Dijk Ramos Neville Modric De Bruyne Scholes Ronaldo Pele Messi Subs: Ederson Xabi Alonso Ronaldinho Rooney Salah Could probably beat most teams in history to be honest. That team will do I suppose, if we have to.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 What I found interesting was that there was about 10x as many attackers mentioned as defenders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Grealish been mentioned ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S Norman Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Thomas Müller Inzaghi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, madras said: Grealish been mentioned ? Yes, as a wet haired fanny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 44 minutes ago, Froggy said: So from this forum we have the following overrated team: Cech Cole Van Dijk Ramos Neville Modric De Bruyne Scholes Ronaldo Pele Messi Subs: Ederson Xabi Alonso Ronaldinho Rooney Salah Could probably beat most teams in history to be honest. In my defence, I only added Van Dijk because he's being called an all time great by sections of the media. He's world class, but that's still overrating him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeepShow4life Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 8 hours ago, St. Maximin said: I always think Perez exemplifies the harsh treatment that attacking midfielders/wingers who also can play as strikers get (another example being Rashford, poor as he’s been recently). They don’t play as out-and-out strikers and play positions not much different to wingers that won’t get near to double figures in goals, but don’t get near the same level of criticism. Pretty sure Perez has often played a very similar to role to Fraser and Almiron, who don’t get abuse despite very low goals and assists numbers. Personally I thought the amazing goals Perez scored papered over the cracks. Everytime I watched him he seemed to constantly give the ball away and not do much then every so often pop up with a worldie out of nowhere. I know he wasn't playing in his preferred position mind. I didn't dislike him as he worked hard etc, just think the money we got for him was amazing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Generally most English players tend to be overrated, but that’s more hype by the media than anything else. You could make a case for 90% of the England squad are rated more highly than they should be. Think the only exceptions to that which immediately spring to mind are Kane and those who regularly get stick (Maguire, Sterling etc.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 That always used to be the case but I don’t think Mount, Foden, Saka, Philips and Chilwell are particularly overrated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 46 minutes ago, McCormick said: That always used to be the case but I don’t think Mount, Foden, Saka, Philips and Chilwell are particularly overrated. This. Under-rated if anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillingtonMag Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 10 hours ago, The Prophet said: 155 goals and 62 assists in 249 games for Liverpool, he's world class. I try to tune out of punditry so I've no doubt missed some overkill. Kevin Philips won the golden boot not doubting his goal scoring record but don't think his all round game is of a world class player. Often watch Liverpool and not massively Impressed by him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 18 minutes ago, WillingtonMag said: Kevin Philips won the golden boot not doubting his goal scoring record but don't think his all round game is of a world class player. Often watch Liverpool and not massively Impressed by him. He terrifies me. He's stupid good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillingtonMag Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Just now, Froggy said: He terrifies me. He's stupid good. Maybe I've caught him during a bad patch of form or somthing cos I was expecting to be wowed a bit with the way people were talking about him, was similar when watched a bit of the African Cup of Nations were you'd think he'd stand out more. Maybe I'm talking shite then haha. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 That spell he had around October/November time, he was absolutely unplayable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Coutinho. £120+ million player to a £12 million player in 4 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 12 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: I'm probably going to attract some right pelters here - and it isn't the intent - but Ronaldinho firmly sits in that 'good player but not great' for me. Flat-track bully who never grabbed hold of any 'big' games that I saw. Genuinely world class players do - Maradona, Messi, Zidane, C Ronaldo, real Ronaldo, van Basten etc etc - had some of their best games in the biggest matches. I'd second some of the bigger names listed here *cough Totti cough* but I think I've likely expressed an unpopular enough one! Surely Ronaldinho tearing apart the Galacticos at the Bernabeu, with two wondergoals, earning him a round of applause from the home fans - counts as grabbing hold of a big game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: Surely Ronaldinho tearing apart the Galacticos at the Bernabeu, with two wondergoals, earning him a round of applause from the home fans - counts as grabbing hold of a big game? The toe punt against Chelsea was such a massive wow moment in another huge game as well. I remember Terry really struggling against him as well, which is something that was really rarely seen. I remember on one occasion at the Neu Camp him trying to go aggressive and just bouncing off him. Edited May 10, 2022 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Yeah - plus I remember the following season him scoring the decider at home to Chelsea, setting up Giuly with a perfect pass against Milan in the semis. Lots of pretty big game moments even just off the top of my head. The only thing you can say about Ronaldinho is that, even moreso than Kaka, is that he shined very bright for a short amount of time and then fizzled out. That arguably does place him lower than other greats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Aleksandar Mitrović Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 I’ve sort of enjoyed reading some of the really horrible takes in here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 There have been some horrible takes, but some are deliberately or otherwise conflating overrated and shit. Players of all ability can be overrated really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEFAFWISP Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Some that come to mind...; Kalvin Philips Mason Mount Gary Speed Ryan Giggs Matthew Upson David Seaman Hugo Lloris Gokhan Inler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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