Sima Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 43 minutes ago, Jack27 said: Will be interesting to get a deep dive on them from Kieran Maguire/Swiss Ramble, the full document is available in the web page too I’ll wait for Grumpy Old Man tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Won’t Include Botman, Isak or Gordon that either will it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, Geogaddi said: Won’t Include Botman, Isak or Gordon that either will it? Money put in by the club are not included in these results. I think people should take note of Eales comments, they know exactly what they're doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, Geogaddi said: Won’t Include Botman, Isak or Gordon that either will it? Yeah its basically up to the start of last summer's transfer window, the end of the 21/22 season, so it's not even a full years accounts under the new owners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Maybe a big summer spend isn’t going to be possible, really need those sponsorships. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Maybe a big summer spend isn’t going to be possible, really need those sponsorships. They'll find a way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 11 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: They'll find a way. Honestly, how? I keep seeing predictions from our own fans and others that we'll soon splash the cash big time. We're a least a couple of years off having the requisite income - that's assuming the PL doesn't block lucrative sponsorships. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, Turnbull2000 said: Honestly, how? I keep seeing predictions from our own fans and others that we'll soon splash the cash big time. We're a least a couple of years off having the requisite income - that's assuming the PL doesn't block lucrative sponsorships. Remember - we're coming from a position of having almost no sponsorship income during the Ashley years. Everything aside from the shirt sponsor was Sports Direct. Everything plastered on SJP was Sports Direct. No "Commercial Partners". It's easier to find additional revenue streams when you're starting from such a low base (eg the Noon deal which is apparently worth more per season than Fun88 are paying) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 based on our last three years finances, we are bang at that 105m P&S (FFP) limit. 22.5m loss in 19/20 12.5m loss in 20/21 70.7m loss in 21/22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 It's nothing we didn't already know. The new shirt sponsor along with any additional partnerships will obviously help a great deal going into the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, Jack27 said: based on our last three years finances, we are bang at that 105m P&S (FFP) limit. 22.5m loss in 19/20 12.5m loss in 20/21 70.7m loss in 21/22 I could be wrong and I haven't read the accounts but isn't there a difference between the "Accounts" and the FFP profit/loss? As in the FFP is calculated differently & there are various exclusions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, Jack27 said: based on our last three years finances, we are bang at that 105m P&S (FFP) limit. 22.5m loss in 19/20 12.5m loss in 20/21 70.7m loss in 21/22 FFP losses aren’t the same as accounting losses - but clearly £71m would take some creative accounting to write off for FFP. Given the likely huge losses this year too, it is patently obvious just what sort of financial straightjacketing we’re in. Try telling it to the ‘we should have spent £150m in January to secure CL qualification’ lot though - they won’t accept it. I think they’re going to be disappointed for a couple of more years yet - it is going to take years to get the club’s revenues on track with the big boys given that you can’t just get a sweetheart deal from Aramco or whoever Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Again people seem to be not considering the money put in by the owners, which are not included in these accounts. 90 million of which is allowed to be offset in relation to FFP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Alright fair, this is why I’m not an accountant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Shit is interesting though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Not worried in the slightest by the accounts The noon deal as well as other sponsors which we'll no doubt add will be in this year's account so we should see the revenue jump significantly (plus more money for higher league finish as well as being shown on TV all the time) We have credible people employed that will know what they are doing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Get it on a flag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 No surprises at all in these, a loss of around £70m was mentioned a few months ago. this years will be more interesting when they come out next Spring but they are still very much in the investment/infrastructure phase and another loss will be expected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 1 hour ago, et tu brute said: Again people seem to be not considering the money put in by the owners, which are not included in these accounts. 90 million of which is allowed to be offset in relation to FFP. What’s allowed under this approach? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, andyc35i said: What’s allowed under this approach? Owners can put in money when they want to (usually through allocation of shares), but only 90 million can be offset against FFP. It's important for us initially though, as it gives us some leeway whilst we build up our commercial/sponsorship revenue. Edited March 31, 2023 by et tu brute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earp Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Just come across this forum. Is it a refreshed version of Skunkers - I recognise Paully and Yorkie? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 Random. I was never on Skunkers though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 (edited) Average wage 79k a week. Edited April 1, 2023 by The Butcher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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