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  On 08/12/2024 at 11:35, STM said:

I also don't get anywhere near the enjoyment from this, knowing how shite we've been recently.

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Still funny as hell. Somehow we are still above them in the table even though it is only by a point.

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  On 08/12/2024 at 11:35, STM said:

I also don't get anywhere near the enjoyment from this, knowing how shite we've been recently.

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Been shite on the park but enjoy we are no where near as much of a shambles off the park as them 

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  On 08/12/2024 at 11:10, Stifler said:

Hilarious to think that after putting in all the stops to prevent us from competing, they have went full throttle, and choked themselves. After the Man City CAT case, and the new rules on ownership loans, Ratcliffe can’t put money into them, and they have ended up charging their fans double the price for tickets, and sacking the guy they spend the best part of a year chasing, and spent £10m getting him because they can no longer afford his wages and signings. 

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Looking at their latest accounts, it appears that Ratcliffe's investment was issuance of new shares as opposed to a shareholder loan.  They can continue to pump in additional cash as equity without incurring any additional interest costs - as long as the Glazer's are happy to continue diluting at least.

 

Their main issue on FFP is that they actually do pay commercial interest rates on their bank loans which hits their bottom line.

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  On 08/12/2024 at 09:51, Pixelphish said:

Escorted off the premise if you believe this. Suggests gross misconduct unless Jimmy threw his toys out the pram after losing.

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Fucking LOL.

 

So... Does this change the retconning of thinking it was Eddie and Amanda squeezing a good man out of our club?

 

Handle Sports Directors with care.

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  On 08/12/2024 at 11:46, Eveready said:

Looking at their latest accounts, it appears that Ratcliffe's investment was issuance of new shares as opposed to a shareholder loan.  They can continue to pump in additional cash as equity without incurring any additional interest costs - as long as the Glazer's are happy to continue diluting at least.

 

Their main issue on FFP is that they actually do pay commercial interest rates on their bank loans which hits their bottom line.

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Thats the thing though, as someone else said he doesn’t want to put his own money in, but he’ll have access to better loans than Man Utd. The Glazers won’t want to dilute, so basically he’ll be able to loan money, and loan that to Man Utd. They’ve now absolutely fucked that, and because they don’t even want to dilute shares, and because it isn’t allowed to PSR, they have fucked themselves out of any ability to invest money.

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  On 08/12/2024 at 11:46, nufc123 said:

Well.....not much better either.

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we didn’t extend the managers contract after interviewing other candidates then giving him over €200m to spend only to sack him a few months later 

 

our owner didn’t go on tv day after day saying ashworth is best in class 
 

We didn’t pay them millions to looks like fuckin idiots when they sack the guy after less time in the roll than he was on gardening leave 

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  On 08/12/2024 at 11:56, Stifler said:

Thats the thing though, as someone else said he doesn’t want to put his own money in, but he’ll have access to better loans than Man Utd. The Glazers won’t want to dilute, so basically he’ll be able to loan money, and loan that to Man Utd. They’ve now absolutely fucked that, and because they don’t even want to dilute shares, and because it isn’t allowed to PSR, they have fucked themselves out of any ability to invest money.

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Ah I wasn't aware that he wasn't putting any more money in.  Did do a quick search but couldn't find anything about it.

 

The Glazer's must have diluted upon his initial $200m investment so would expect them to be open to discussions around it.

 

However, if they keep just spunking the investment up the wall, diluting the Glazer's holding whilst the market cap doesn't show any improvement then I'd imagine they'd put an end to it sooner or later either way

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How did I miss this?  :)

 

Sorry, but my cock is in danger of being laughed off.  Fuck the amateur gardening cunt.  'Spokes in the wheel' my arse - an absolute chancer who managed to snake oil his way into various positions.

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  On 08/12/2024 at 12:10, TheBrownBottle said:

How did I miss this?  :)

 

Sorry, but my cock is in danger of being laughed off.  Fuck the amateur gardening cunt.  'Spokes in the wheel' my arse - an absolute chancer who managed to snake oil his way into various positions.

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I’m not sure about this to be honest

 

Radcliffe is a bit of a basket case 

 

he has a good track record and arguably did a good job in hindsight here - though it’s hard to know what actually is what

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  On 08/12/2024 at 12:13, tgarve said:

I’m not sure about this to be honest

 

Radcliffe is a bit of a basket case 

 

he has a good track record and arguably did a good job in hindsight here - though it’s hard to know what actually is what

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Honestly mate, I think both positions are likely to be true - Radcliffe is a basket case, and Ashworth is simply a competent (and over-glorified) administrator

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  On 03/01/2024 at 18:56, Andy said:

I've never really understood what Ashworth does to get the credit he receives. Brighton already had much of their framework in place before he went there, and have coped fine in his absence. And as was mentioned above, most of our best signings were also either made or already being pursued prior to his arrival. 

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Said this almost a year ago and I feel it has proven true. Whenever a sporting director is credited with being some transformative figure, you can be almost certain that they've created a myth around themselves in the press. I'm sure there are exceptions, and I was even willing to give DA some benefit of the doubt at the time, but they are often credited with things that are typically the role of a much wider team. 

 

Delighted to see the little weasel out of a job, anyway. 

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Feels like a bit of medieval court politics. If King Jim hires 5 different guys in various DOF roles he’ll always find one to agree with him and another to scapegoat.  And he can dress the decision he was going to make anyway as being carefully considered. 

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