Gawalls Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Not wanting to sound harsh or anything but it’s apparent the new owners and Eddie and his team have big expectations and targets, you don’t get that by carrying players not playing because they set the right tone or whatever is crazy. if getting rid of a few of these players freed up wages for a new striker or cm then surely that’s the best thing. We also have to remember ffp is about outgoings as well so if players aren’t contributing and not needed then get rid in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 36 minutes ago, James said: Apparently because he is a player on the bench, Ritchie is allowed to be in the pitch until moments before KO and leads the last minute press exercises, which we are then actioning from minute one. If true he is invaluable. Eh? Ritchie is taking training drills in the warm ups? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 No way Ritchie is here beyond summer. He has a few years of playing time left and will want to play. Makes perfect sense for Lascelles to leave too. He’s just not going to get game time now and we’ll almost certainly bring in a young right sided CB in the summer. We need to clear the decks and free up wage space. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 47 minutes ago, gbandit said: It’s a nice sentiment but we’re not a charity for footballers who can’t get a game. They’ve both been excellent in terms of attitude at the club and have been a part of our turn-around even if it was more about supporting with the club culture rather than achieving things on the pitch. I can’t really see a reason why Ritchie stays but Lascelles has more of an argument to be around for at least another year, especially if we get into Europe We’re evidently not a charity though are we? Wood was a big positive presence around the club by all accounts, but when it made financial sense to do so we moved him on. If someone comes in and offers enough cold, hard cash for our squad players they’ll be on their way. But as the wording implies we do need a squad. If we sell Lascelles or Ritchie they’ll need to be replaced and often that’s a greater financial burden than retaining an existing player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 If we’re on about setting the tone, personally I think it’s pretty embarrassing that we’ve got a player on the bench who hasn’t been a PL standard footballer for 5 years. No idea why he’d want to stay unless he’s accepted his days as a pro are over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Everything points to Matt Richie hanging around as part player/coach IMO. If he wants into management, there's no better place to learn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 I agree, he's shite mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 I watch the players warm up when I’m at the games, I’ve never seen Ritchie taking them through any drills. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: If we’re on about setting the tone, personally I think it’s pretty embarrassing that we’ve got a player on the bench who hasn’t been a PL standard footballer for 5 years. No idea why he’d want to stay unless he’s accepted his days as a pro are over. I think your last sentence is pretty bang on. Certainly his days as a PL pro are over Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Just now, SUPERTOON said: I watch the players warm up when I’m at the games, I’ve never seen Ritchie taking them through any drills. Of course he doesn't 'Invaluable' Matt Ritchie ffs. James is on another planet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, christ said: We’re evidently not a charity though are we? Wood was a big positive presence around the club by all accounts, but when it made financial sense to do so we moved him on. If someone comes in and offers enough cold, hard cash for our squad players they’ll be on their way. But as the wording implies we do need a squad. If we sell Lascelles or Ritchie they’ll need to be replaced and often that’s a greater financial burden than retaining an existing player. Last game lascelles and manquillo started is one very few games we conceded more than one goal in and we got beat off Shef Wed. even the lowest footballers wages is high and to keep them around because they’re apparently good crack seems mental to me personally. This summer we’re gonna have a new shirt sponsor coming in and we need to get finances right - surely top of the to do list is going to be trim the squad and remove unwanted players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 10 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: I watch the players warm up when I’m at the games, I’ve never seen Ritchie taking them through any drills. Someone else posted it on here so I’m only going off what they said! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 He definitely gets involved in the first team warm up. God knows why. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Dan Ashworth is a big fan of “overage player in the U21s to help out” Stinks of Matt Ritchie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 1 hour ago, James said: Apparently because he is a player on the bench, Ritchie is allowed to be in the pitch until moments before KO and leads the last minute press exercises, which we are then actioning from minute one. If true he is invaluable. Despite not being true in the slightest, him doing something that any coach worth their salt could do makes him "invaluable". Turn down that £50m bid from China for Matt Ritchie, he's invaluable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Jack27 said: Dan Ashworth is a big fan of “overage player in the U21s to help out” Stinks of Matt Ritchie Man-U have Huddlestone and Liverpool Jay Spearing for that Ritchie is better than them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, STM said: He definitely gets involved in the first team warm up. God knows why. It's just to make up the numbers for their 6 v 5 games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Just now, Gawalls said: Last game lascelles and manquillo started is one very few games we conceded more than one goal in and we got beat off Shef Wed. even the lowest footballers wages is high and to keep them around because they’re apparently good crack seems mental to me personally. This summer we’re gonna have a new shirt sponsor coming in and we need to get finances right - surely top of the to do list is going to be trim the squad and remove unwanted players. What the fuck are you talking about? Trim the squad? We’re always about two injuries away from being absolutely fucked I’m not debating the quality of these players but please, a little perspective. We need more than a match day 18. Players get injured, tired, whatever. Lascelles and Ritchie are not the calibre I’d really want us to have as backup but we’re in transition. Replacing them with players of equivalent quality let alone someone better will have a greater cost than keeping them when you factor in transfer fees, signing on bonuses, agents etc. If another club comes in and makes a good offer they’ll be on their way. Evidently that’s not forthcoming, and the club aren’t going to flog them under market value because Gawalls from the internet thinks they should. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 13 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said: Man-U have Huddlestone and Liverpool Jay Spearing for that Ritchie is better than them Thought dummett was earmarked for that! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Prophet Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 I wonder if none of the first choice CMs are available if they're tempted by a loan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 38 minutes ago, christ said: What the fuck are you talking about? Trim the squad? We’re always about two injuries away from being absolutely fucked I’m not debating the quality of these players but please, a little perspective. We need more than a match day 18. Players get injured, tired, whatever. Lascelles and Ritchie are not the calibre I’d really want us to have as backup but we’re in transition. Replacing them with players of equivalent quality let alone someone better will have a greater cost than keeping them when you factor in transfer fees, signing on bonuses, agents etc. If another club comes in and makes a good offer they’ll be on their way. Evidently that’s not forthcoming, and the club aren’t going to flog them under market value because Gawalls from the internet thinks they should. They’re also not gonna keep them because Christ from the internet thinks they should, I was giving my opinion and you go into arsehole mode. the day we need to call on these players in prem games is the day we probably start letting in more goals. We’ve all done it for years with Lascelles waiting for a stupid mistake to allow a goal. Get a lb in and especially when target returns we have burn to cover cb so I personally won’t lose any sleep over lascelles going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, Gawalls said: They’re also not gonna keep them because Christ from the internet thinks they should, I was giving my opinion and you go into arsehole mode. the day we need to call on these players in prem games is the day we probably start letting in more goals. We’ve all done it for years with Lascelles waiting for a stupid mistake to allow a goal. Get a lb in and especially when target returns we have burn to cover cb so I personally won’t lose any sleep over lascelles going. It’s a very silly opinion. Put your copy of FM in the bin and enter the real world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Ronaldo said: If we’re on about setting the tone, personally I think it’s pretty embarrassing that we’ve got a player on the bench who hasn’t been a PL standard footballer for 5 years. No idea why he’d want to stay unless he’s accepted his days as a pro are over. Having both Ritchie and Lascelles on the bench also scares the shit out of me. An injury or two away from them getting on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Just now, christ said: It’s a very silly opinion. Put your copy of FM in the bin and enter the real world. 99% of people on here are brilliant but I genuinely don’t want to talk to you anymore, life’s too short Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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