r0cafella Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Just now, gdm said: So it looks like we are done then? Taking in to account we have a game tonight Aye, not much speculation it appears. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 If that really is us done, then letting Shelvey go at this stage is seriously playing with fire in terms of targetting top 4 like. I don't think that's an unreasonable review of the situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Conjo said: Iconic of what? Imo, Bruno & Botman are already more iconic than what Silva would be. They will be the back bone of this side for the next 7-8 years if not longer. Silva would be stepping down for the last few years of his career at the top level. Only motivation for joining would be if we offered a bigger salary than Man City are giving him. It's interesting - the spine for the next 2-3 seasons (until 2025) Pope Botman Bruno Gordon? Isak Along with very solid incumbents in: Trippier Schar Joelinton ASM Almiron Wilson It appears big-time replacements are due in the following positions in the short term: LB CM AM I can see them getting a top-class (Isak/Bruno level) LB and CM this summer above all else. Possibly AM too. Then a solid CB younger than Schar but older than Botman and a third striker, younger backup for Isak who will become main man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said: If that really is us done, then letting Shelvey go at this stage is seriously playing with fire in terms of targetting top 4 like. I don't think that's an unreasonable review of the situation. It’s a gamble without doubt but given he’s contributing nothing this season one they seem to be confident taking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, gdm said: So it looks like we are done then? Taking in to account we have a game tonight If they show ashworth in the stands then yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 13 minutes ago, LV said: He wants to go to Spain Well then he should come here. If we qualify for the CL, we've got a decent chance of drawing a Spanish club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 We are already way ahead of most people’s expectations in terms of what the new owners and management would and could achieve, especially in such a short space of time. It is fair to say we are exceeding all expectations and because of this, some expectations now seem disproportionate to the realities of where we are still. To a certain degree I agree this could be a missed opportunity, especially with the lure of champions league looking possible, if we do not get more players in. If and it’s a big if, we got to the CL with our current squad, it’s simply not up to the rigours of the premiership, cup and a CL campaign next season. Nor would we necessarily have the capacity (FFP) to strengthen enough to make that happen, which could be detrimental rather than positive. A lot will hinge on the commercial deals lined up this summer… We have made massive strides on so many fronts, so I am pretty relaxed. We are a professional outfit now – new CEO, DOF, Head of commercial and legal, new management team and a vastly improved backroom team, who all seem very well aligned with each other and the ultimate goals. If we get there sooner, great. If it takes another year so be it. It would be a shame to call this a 3/10 window when there is so much more to it than that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, gdm said: So it looks like we are done then? Taking in to account we have a game tonight Possibly, but I dont see how having a match means the people who do the deals cant be doing that behind the scenes when the match is underway anyway. Doubt they need Howe to do the actual deal, and would be Ashworth and Eales at the 'business end' anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Aye, not much speculation it appears. While I agree, I wouldn't read into the lack of speculation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Just now, The Prophet said: While I agree, I wouldn't read into the lack of speculation. I’d usually agree but it’s deadline day, any deal would have to be pretty advance and the press will usually get hold of it at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Dan Gleebals said: We are already way ahead of most people’s expectations in terms of what the new owners and management would and could achieve, especially in such a short space of time. It is fair to say we are exceeding all expectations and because of this, some expectations now seem disproportionate to the realities of where we are still. To a certain degree I agree this could be a missed opportunity, especially with the lure of champions league looking possible, if we do not get more players in. If and it’s a big if, we got to the CL with our current squad, it’s simply not up to the rigours of the premiership, cup and a CL campaign next season. Nor would we necessarily have the capacity (FFP) to strengthen enough to make that happen, which could be detrimental rather than positive. A lot will hinge on the commercial deals lined up this summer… We have made massive strides on so many fronts, so I am pretty relaxed. We are a professional outfit now – new CEO, DOF, Head of commercial and legal, new management team and a vastly improved backroom team, who all seem very well aligned with each other and the ultimate goals. If we get there sooner, great. If it takes another year so be it. It would be a shame to call this a 3/10 window when there is so much more to it than that. I think this is exactly the view the club is taking. Slow and steady and considered. Edited January 31, 2023 by LV Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 The club will make it known to their preferred sources (Caulkin, SSN etc) when they're done for the day/window. Until we get that word I wouldn't take the silence as meaning much. Stuff will be getting explored. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 What could have been interesting is going back in for Hugo Ekitike, just on loan with no buy option, to cover for Wood's departure until the end of the season. That guy owes us, third time lucky and he'll still probably get more time here than he would at PSG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Don't think it's too much of an issue if Shelvey isn't replaced. We have Bruno, Joelinton, Willock, Longstaff, and Anderson all vying for CM spots, and Gordon can play there too (AM or number 10) if needed. Out wide we have ASM, Almiron, Gordon, Murphy and Fraser vying for spots, and Isak at a push. Up front, Wilson and Isak, with Gordon or Joelinton as 3rd choice. Don't think the squads too bad. Don't get me wrong, I'd love a really top quality CM to come in, but I think that's one for the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 minute ago, kingxlnc said: What could have been interesting is going back in for Hugo Ekitike, just on loan with no buy option, to cover for Wood's departure until the end of the season. That guy owes us, third time lucky and he'll still probably get more time here than he would at PSG Our bench might be a tough sell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosstef Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Just now, kingxlnc said: What could have been interesting is going back in for Hugo Ekitike, just on loan with no buy option, to cover for Wood's departure until the end of the season. That guy owes us, third time lucky and he'll still probably get more time here than he would at PSG Isn't he playing quite regularly for PSG lately? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 minute ago, kingxlnc said: What could have been interesting is going back in for Hugo Ekitike, just on loan with no buy option, to cover for Wood's departure until the end of the season. That guy owes us, third time lucky and he'll still probably get more time here than he would at PSG The days of us developing talent for others is gone thankfully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Just now, mosstef said: Isn't he playing quite regularly for PSG lately? Think so, yep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 I'm not to arsed if we dont get that CM. Because I'd hope that the signing of Gordon and ASM getting much fitter and Sharper, Isak showing he can float about the entire front three, that this spells the end of Joelinton out wide, and we see him back with Bruno in the centre demolishing teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Shadow Puppets said: Don't think it's too much of an issue if Shelvey isn't replaced. We have Bruno, Joelinton, Willock, Longstaff, and Anderson all vying for CM spots, and Gordon can play there too (AM or number 10) if needed. Out wide we have ASM, Almiron, Gordon, Murphy and Fraser vying for spots, and Isak at a push. Up front, Wilson and Isak, with Gordon or Joelinton as 3rd choice. Don't think the squads too bad. Don't get me wrong, I'd love a really top quality CM to come in, but I think that's one for the summer. Agree, I want a midfielder in but they'll obviously only do it for the right person. Maybe they were slightly surprised that Forest wanted Shelvey, TBF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infatuation Junkie Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Something will happen no one knows about. I feel it in my nutsack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Did seem like it was heading this way with us being done after Ashby and hearing Eddie's comments. We were absolutely dependent on someone on our long term list becoming available today at the right price or on loan. Still might pull something out of the hat but looks unlikely. Three exciting additions though. Four if we count the GK situation. We know our ownership is in this for the long term and doing this the methodical way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, mosstef said: Isn't he playing quite regularly for PSG lately? 3 minutes ago, kingxlnc said: What could have been interesting is going back in for Hugo Ekitike, just on loan with no buy option, to cover for Wood's departure until the end of the season. That guy owes us, third time lucky and he'll still probably get more time here than he would at PSG I think he's on loan there this year aswell right? Loan with option/obligation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Infatuation Junkie said: Something will happen no one knows about. I feel it in my nutsack You should get that looked at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Since European football looks nailed on for next season, it would be good to start bedding in a CM now. If FFP is what it is though, maybe it can't be helped for the standard of player they want to bring in. Before the season started, there was still suspicion that Joelinton was not disciplined enough, with the ball or fouls, to play in a double pivot, but I think he's proved that wrong. If he can, that would give us three CMs who can play in a two with various options at #10, or the four who can play in our current three. Gordon left, Miggy right would let us play both strikers and still be defensively strong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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