Jack27 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Roger Ibanez. Him and Botman for the next decade please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 28 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: Never been impressed with Ward-Prowse outside of his set pieces but his stats do suggest otherwise. Do think we can get much better though. More so regarding McTominay, don't think he improves us much at all. Wish some of these links were to players on the continent more. Far better value for money there and I have no worries about implementing them here with Howe, his coaching and the staff. I've always thought he's under-rated due to his free-kicks tbh. People see that and have him typecast as just that. He's a quality footballer with a good range of passing. Think he'd be perfect as the third midfielder alongside Bruno and Joelinton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Is JWP actually a good player, or is he just excellent at free kicks? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 (edited) Not a huge fan of JWP. Fantastic set piece ability, but he lacks in a lot of areas. If we're going for a Southampton midfielder, I'd much prefer Lavia. Edited March 9, 2023 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzz Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Just now, Klaus said: Is JWP actually a good player, or is he just excellent at free kicks? Just good at free kicks imo. I think he's basically a slightly better Seb Larsson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Just now, Klaus said: Is JWP actually a good player, or is he just excellent at free kicks? From what i've seen, not that I watch Southampton a ton, he's very tidy on the ball, picks a good pass but very small and easily knocked around physically. Think his cost would outweigh what he'd bring. But those FKs man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 He’d be a Shelvey replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Edwards at Sporting? Fits our profile, like his game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Would love Merino back as a CM, him under Howe would be Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgk_lfc Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Optimistic Nut said: I've always thought he's under-rated due to his free-kicks tbh. People see that and have him typecast as just that. He's a quality footballer with a good range of passing. Think he'd be perfect as the third midfielder alongside Bruno and Joelinton. He is a very good footballer who is underrated due to his setpiece and loyalty to Southampton. Since 2014-2015, he has missed only 11 games due to injury. I think he has played every minute of Southampton's PL games for four seasons or something like that. While that is massively impressive, players like that often deteriorate rapidly once they hit their late 20s or early 30s. There is that risk with JWP due to the mileage. We are facing the same with Fabinho this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 I’m not liking the names that are getting linked at the minute like. James Ward Prowse,Scott Mctomanay,Harry Maguire,Mason Mount. Are these ‘phase 2’ players? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Just now, Myleftboot said: I’m not liking the names that are getting linked at the minute like. James Ward Prowse,Scott Mctomanay,Harry Maguire,Mason Mount. Are these ‘phase 2’ players? Let’s fucking hope not as the vibe seems to be PL experienced players. Absolutely worst way to go and would ultimately be Howe’s demise as he’d fail to take us to the next level PIF clearly want. Lets hope it’s agent driven paper bollocks as it would be a huge shift in recruitment strategy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 They have said pretty consistently that we can’t afford to make mistakes in the market due to ffp, so it is understandable that we are targeting more prem proven players. However the likes of Mctominay are not the way to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 The only thing they've proven is that they're all bang average (at best) and have played in the League long enough for that to be inarguable. I'd even go as far as to say I'd be deliberately avoiding dealing with the Big 6 right up until the point we're able to take their best players and that is at least 5 or 6 years away yet. Not interested in them converting their dross into cash because we're asking them, fuck that. Look at the best talent on the continent and go with that. There are many Botman's, Isak's and Bruno's out there so find them and sign them. What the fuck is Scott McTominay going to add to this side man? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 (edited) Having read Midds' eloquent riposte to the McTominay furore, i've changed my mind. I was in the "trust Eddie camp" on this if it turns out to be true. I feel like Mr Pink in Reservoir Dogs asking for his dollar back. Edited March 9, 2023 by LionOfGosforth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, midds said: The only thing they've proven is that they're all bang average (at best) and have played in the League long enough for that to be inarguable. I'd even go as far as to say I'd be deliberately avoiding dealing with the Big 6 right up until the point we're able to take their best players and that is at least 5 or 6 years away yet. Not interested in them converting their dross into cash because we're asking them, fuck that. Look at the best talent on the continent and go with that. There are many Botman's, Isak's and Bruno's out there so find them and sign them. What the fuck is Scott McTominay going to add to this side man? Basically yeah, they are trying to offload dead wood. Everton and Sunderland always used to buy their cast offs. We should not be doing that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maze Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 13 minutes ago, midds said: The only thing they've proven is that they're all bang average (at best) and have played in the League long enough for that to be inarguable. I'd even go as far as to say I'd be deliberately avoiding dealing with the Big 6 right up until the point we're able to take their best players and that is at least 5 or 6 years away yet. Not interested in them converting their dross into cash because we're asking them, fuck that. Look at the best talent on the continent and go with that. There are many Botman's, Isak's and Bruno's out there so find them and sign them. What the fuck is Scott McTominay going to add to this side man? Amen. And thank you?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 I'm refusing to let myself get too wound up about any possible signings until I see them in black and white stripes. Until then it could be anything including diversionary tactics. So far, all our signings have proven somewhere between safe and stunning. The transfer committee have a bit of rope from me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 18 minutes ago, 80 said: I'm refusing to let myself get too wound up about any possible signings until I see them in black and white stripes. Until then it could be anything including diversionary tactics. So far, all our signings have proven somewhere between safe and stunning. The transfer committee have a bit of rope from me. The only one I’ve not been keen on is Gordon, think that’s their first big mistake in the market (hopefully he proves me wrong). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Gordon has a real chance of coming good. Mctominy is as good as he gets and isn't a much different level from Longstaff. If we're shifting Longstaff to the bench then it has to be for someone clearly better than him, or just stick with what we've got. Even better. Bring in young talent like Alex Scott and let him work his way into the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahoneys Tache Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 1 hour ago, rgk_lfc said: He is a very good footballer who is underrated due to his setpiece and loyalty to Southampton. Since 2014-2015, he has missed only 11 games due to injury. I think he has played every minute of Southampton's PL games for four seasons or something like that. While that is massively impressive, players like that often deteriorate rapidly once they hit their late 20s or early 30s. There is that risk with JWP due to the mileage. We are facing the same with Fabinho this season. Speed and Lee kept that level of performance up well into their 30’s and fitness and nutrition are much better now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 23 minutes ago, Dokko said: Gordon has a real chance of coming good. Mctominy is as good as he gets and isn't a much different level from Longstaff. If we're shifting Longstaff to the bench then it has to be for someone clearly better than him, or just stick with what we've got. Even better. Bring in young talent like Alex Scott and let him work his way into the team. It's a complete false economy to sign the likes of McTominay. All we'd be doing is spending £30m(ish) to add another body who is no different to what we've got. He's probably a slightly better version of Longstaff on his better days and adds nothing different to the squad, he's a clone. It would also add £30m(ish) to Man U's transfer pot as they go out and buy a Bellingham (or whoever) who would significantly improve them. The cash we'd give them would be spent in helping improving the opposition we're trying to catch and overhaul in the first place, we'd be even further away from them, the logic is retarded. Not saying it'll be easy to haul them in but buying the likes of McTominay would make it even more difficult. I love Howe and what he's done but someone needs to have a word if he's seriously after McTominay and his ilk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 52 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: The only one I’ve not been keen on is Gordon, think that’s their first big mistake in the market (hopefully he proves me wrong). He's definitely a controversial one, but I'm optimistic. Time will tell, but I think he ought to at least end up in the safe section given his age, nationality and profile - those three things alone justify virtually 2/3rds of his transfer fee (unfortunately). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Gordon has looked tidy thus far, but the jury is out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Gordon has looked tidy thus far, but the jury is out. Agree, but we definitely overpaid given what he has shown at Everton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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