Swissmag Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 On 27/05/2023 at 22:49, Optimistic Nut said: That'd be a concern. I know Botman isn't a slouch but I think we need some pace there. Sorry, I have to take that back. Somehow i was thinking of Rrahmani (don‘t ask me why). Kim instead is quite quick for a defender ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 So who is going to be our next Beardsley, Bellamy, Trippier team changing signing? That one player who will lift 3 or 4 players around him and see a huge change to the team dynamic. An easy one in my head would be Kane... But I know thats never going to happen! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Hhtoon said: That being said, 100m total transfer spend equates to about 20m a year FFP hit (exc wages) assuming 5 year contracts. Which seems reasonable...so who knows This cuts both ways though - the fees paid for Trippier, Bruno, Botman, Isak, they're all still being factored into the FFP calculation. It's why growing the squad quickly is so difficult, even with the additional sponsorship. We also have to be careful around the "Champions League money" - that's only guaranteed for next season so if we go overboard this summer and miss out next season we're at risk of hamstringing ourselves down the line. Basically - FFP is designed to stop clubs from doing what we're trying to do and it's very effective at it. Edited May 29, 2023 by Keegans Export Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 36 minutes ago, Keegans Export said: This cuts both ways though - the fees paid for Trippier, Bruno, Botman, Isak, they're all still being factored into the FFP calculation. It's why growing the squad quickly is so difficult, even with the additional sponsorship. We also have to be careful around the "Champions League money" - that's only guaranteed for next season so if we go overboard this summer and miss out next season we're at risk of hamstringing ourselves down the line. Basically - FFP is designed to stop clubs from doing what we're trying to do and it's very effective at it. Yeah I agree, I was kind of bandying 20m about as the known increase in sponsorship. We definitely need to live within non-champions league budgets as you say, though even that one-off season (if it is just a season) hike would help reduce our losses over 3 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 https://twitter.com/MailSport/status/1663141908170915841 Cracking price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintdempsey Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 I would love Kulusevski at NUFC. Think he’d be an awesome fit alongside Isak and also think that he’s a player who’s got the right tools and mindset to be a superb “Eddie Howe player”. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 Is that clause not just limited to Spurs only though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, Stifler said: Is that clause not just limited to Spurs only though? you'd imagine so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 34 minutes ago, clintdempsey said: I would love Kulusevski at NUFC. Think he’d be an awesome fit alongside Isak and also think that he’s a player who’s got the right tools and mindset to be a superb “Eddie Howe player”. i actually wouldn’t mind the Swedish striker at Coventry - purely as a 3rd choice striker - takes away the worry of injuries to either Isak or Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 29 minutes ago, Stifler said: Is that clause not just limited to Spurs only though? Most likely. Didn't they have some kind of arrangement between that and the Bentancur deal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 10 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Most likely. Didn't they have some kind of arrangement between that and the Bentancur deal? They overpaid for 1 and underpaid for the other to minimise the sell-on fees that Juve were due to pay to their previous clubs. Who says the cartel aren't rotten as fuck eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 1 minute ago, midds said: They overpaid for 1 and underpaid for the other to minimise the sell-on fees that Juve were due to pay to their previous clubs. Who says the cartel aren't rotten as fuck eh? Not like Juve to be fiddling the finances… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, midds said: They overpaid for 1 and underpaid for the other to minimise the sell-on fees that Juve were due to pay to their previous clubs. Who says the cartel aren't rotten as fuck eh? That's ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 Just now, Optimistic Nut said: That's ridiculous. The agreed a joint fee for the pair of them but officially it was done in such a way as to protect Juve and scam the prior owners. Sure that was the plan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 Tbh as dodgy as that is, and annoying for any previous club, it's basically completely impossible to mitigate against or challenge legally. Unless it's extremely obvious like giving one away for free/nominal cost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 1 minute ago, ponsaelius said: Tbh as dodgy as that is, and annoying for any previous club, it's basically completely impossible to mitigate against or challenge legally. Unless it's extremely obvious like giving one away for free/nominal cost. Like, say, 'fair market value'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BennyBlanco Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 Would Ayoze be worth bringing back on a free? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, BennyBlanco said: Would Ayoze be worth bringing back on a free? Absolutely not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 Yeah exactly The 20 million euros Spurs paid for Bentancur wasn't massively undervalued at the time, to be honest. He had been shite for Juve for a while and had definitely depreciated in value up to that point. Probably slightly under value but not hugely. I would definitely say Kulusevski being the more expensive of the two was reasonable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, BennyBlanco said: Would Ayoze be worth bringing back on a free? Has to be a windup? ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 Hope saying budget likely to be closer to 150 million Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 My guess is three top class players of about 50-60m, but with quite a few younger development players, so we can start off the Brighton plus model Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 150 million would be about what I expected. That should definitely get four quality players if spent effectively. Don't think we will actively try to sell any key players but also think the club would definitely be tempted to cash in on some if a team came and offered decent money for the likes of Maxi/Miggy/Murphy etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 19 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Hope saying budget likely to be closer to 150 million LB, 2 MF and a RW would do nicely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, sempuki said: LB, 2 MF and a RW would do nicely. LB - CB - 2 mids - Winger - CF squad complete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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