sushimonster85 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 13 minutes ago, Yorkie said: I'd hate to help Chelsea out but based on what I've seen I think Gallagher would be a good fit for our midfield and general playing style. His high workrate, combative nature and general defensive contributions would make him a good foil for Longstaff in-particular. I'm not sure how unique those attributes are though and if he's costing the same amount as Bruno, you'd think we could find an alternative who is more reasonably priced. I think Bruno's price tag was such an anomaly that it can be a little unfair taking it into account when discussing players. Bruno's value pretty much doubled after his first few starts, and now he is already in the £100m+ bracket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, sushimonster85 said: I think Bruno's price tag was such an anomaly that it can be a little unfair taking it into account when discussing players. Bruno's value pretty much doubled after his first few starts, and now he is already in the £100m+ bracket. Fair comment. *if he'd cost a significant part of our whole budget Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Hard to judge any player in a Chelsea shirt this year, there season was so dysfunctional. For me what I saw of his time at Palace Gallagher looks a decent player who would improve our 16-18 starting squad options. wont judge him on last seasons aberration in same way I wouldn’t judge any of our much improved players by the standards produced under fat bacon boy as manager. Going to be interesting to see where Eddie decides to spend and put his priorities as. I trust him to get it right. Howay the lads Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Don’t want Gallagher. Not least because we shouldn’t be looking to help them out in anyway. same thing with Manchester United and Mc Tominay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Gallagher looked exceptionally lightweight when Chelsea came up here earlier in the season. However, we can't ignore his stint at Palace. He'd be a great squad player, but not for 40 mil. Can't be giving Chelsea a helping hand like that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 If we did part with serious cash for Gallagher, there's no way that he's coming in as a squad player. I also couldn't care whether that cash is going to Chelsea, our own needs are far more important. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 So many question about what we'll do. If you want to directly improve the first choice XI, Gallagher is alright. If you want to improve the quality of the squad, Gallagher is excellent. If you want to improve the quality of the first choice XI as well as the quality of the squad, you probably need someone in a higher bracket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 hour ago, STM said: Don't want Gallagher, he doesn't have a fancy foreign name and he hasn't done it in a shite league so obviously it's good enough. Tells you alot about the modern football fan: This Turkish kid has a few fancy highlights on YouTube... obviously the next Modric. Gallagher, had a genuinely class season in the hardest league in the world at the age of 21/22... na he's shite. Can we not be sensible for one minute. It never ceases to amaze me how much Brits seemingly dislike their own players. Even Rice, who I've always thought was a good player, used to get killed on here whenever there were England games on. In the last year when all the top clubs started showing interest with his time at West Ham winding down, then now everyone on here rates him and wants him too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 (edited) I mean, it's true that people have completely wrong opinions about players, Rice and Grealish being two great examples. But I'm not convinced it has anything to do with nationality. We just see them a lot. I guess English players historically being so much more expensive has given them a higher bar to meet. Maybe. Since everyone assumes you can get someone just as good from France for half the price. Edited May 31, 2023 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 16 minutes ago, KaKa said: It never ceases to amaze me how much Brits seemingly dislike their own players. Even Rice, who I've always thought was a good player, used to get killed on here whenever there were England games on. In the last year when all the top clubs started showing interest with his time at West Ham winding down, then now everyone on here rates him and wants him too. It’s got nothing to do with nationality tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 In fairness, there are red flags with Gallagher. While Chelsea are a mess, he has looked pretty average with regular playing time this season. You'd be asking Howe to tap into his potential and recapture his Palace form. If he can he's an immediate improvement on Longstaff, but there's no guarantee. Also, he allegedly isn't keen on leaving London and would command a large fee when there's potentially better options available to us. I think Gallagher could be a massive success under Howe, but I get why people have reservations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 21 minutes ago, KaKa said: It never ceases to amaze me how much Brits seemingly dislike their own players. Even Rice, who I've always thought was a good player, used to get killed on here whenever there were England games on. In the last year when all the top clubs started showing interest with his time at West Ham winding down, then now everyone on here rates him and wants him too. Where does the fact a lot of the same people that don’t want Gallagher want Maddison fit in with this anti English bullshit theory? maybe, just maybe the fact Gallagher having a dreadful season is putting a lot of people off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, KaKa said: It never ceases to amaze me how much Brits seemingly dislike their own players. Even Rice, who I've always thought was a good player, used to get killed on here whenever there were England games on. In the last year when all the top clubs started showing interest with his time at West Ham winding down, then now everyone on here rates him and wants him too. Not sure it’s about nationality; I’ve seen posters dismiss very good non-British players that play in the PL as well. Imo it’s got a lot to do with people scouting foreign-league players on YouTube, where their best hits are being shown on a highlight reel- whereas they’ve seen PL players playing all the time, warts and all, so their familiarity and knowledge of their weaknesses make them less appealing. People just seem want shiny new things and I don’t mean that in a condescending way. As an example: If we didn’t already have him and he was still in Ligue 1 offering similar performances as he is here, people would probably be absolutely frothing over the idea of signing Saint Maximin. Yet many are very happy to sell him (rightly or wrongly). Edited May 31, 2023 by McCormick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 (edited) To me Gallagher has shown more in the past than McTominay, although he did always look poor this season. It’s the English premium that’s really offputting. It’ll be £40m+ and 100k per week on someone that might not merit going straight into the first team. Edited May 31, 2023 by Kimbo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 hour ago, The Prophet said: So were about a dozen other clubs to be fair. I like Adams, but we'll be looking for someone with more quality on the ball you'd have thought. From Gallagher, McTominay and Adams, I'd prefer Adams from the three. Think Eddie could really do something with him. Personally can't see the fuss in any of that Chelsea lot. Mount, RLC, Gallagher etc. They'll all be massively overpriced, on big wedge and have limited impact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, gdm said: Where does the fact a lot of the same people that don’t want Gallagher want Maddison fit in with this anti English bullshit theory? maybe, just maybe the fact Gallagher having a dreadful season is putting a lot of people off. Just very quickly off the top of my head ... Gallagher, Mount, Rice, Grealish, Ramsdale, Pickford have all typically got a hard time on here. I mean these are all at the very least somewhere between solid to really good players. I just don't get it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, McCormick said: Not sure it’s about nationality; I’ve seen posters dismiss very good non-British players that play in the PL as well. Imo it’s got a lot to do with people scouting foreign-league players on YouTube, where their best hits are being shown on a highlight reel- whereas they’ve seen PL players playing all the time, warts and all, so their familiarity and knowledge of their weaknesses make them less appealing. People want shiny new things. If we didn’t already have him and he was still in Ligue 1 offering similar performances as he is here, people would probably be absolutely frothing over the idea of signing Saint Maximin. Yet many are very happy to sell him (rightly or wrongly). Yeah, fair point. Maybe it's just a Premier League familiarity thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 minute ago, KaKa said: Just very quickly off the top of my head ... Gallagher, Mount, Rice, Grealish, Ramsdale, Pickford have all typically got a hard time on here. I mean these are all at the very least somewhere between solid to really good players. I just don't get it. Ward Prowse too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Just now, KaKa said: Just very quickly off the top of my head ... Gallagher, Mount, Rice, Grealish, Ramsdale, Pickford have all typically got a hard time on here. I mean these are all at the very least somewhere between solid to really good players. I just don't get it. Most people here under-rated Nick Pope too. A lot of "he's no better than Dubs" when he's streaks ahead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Just now, The College Dropout said: Most people here under-rated Nick Pope too. A lot of "he's no better than Dubs" when he's streaks ahead. Yes indeed. He was another one. I also noticed whenever we get linked with these players, there'll usually be someone mentioning Howe's Brexit Mags or something similarly strange. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 It's definite anti-British sentiment among football fans. It extends to players and coaches. It's not alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, KaKa said: Yeah, fair point. Maybe it's just a Premier League familiarity thing. I’d agree with that rather than a nationality thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, KaKa said: Just very quickly off the top of my head ... Gallagher, Mount, Rice, Grealish, Ramsdale, Pickford have all typically got a hard time on here. I mean these are all at the very least somewhere between solid to really good players. I just don't get it. The more you see a player the more likely it is that you’ve seen him have a poor game (and if they’re your own nationality, you’ve seen them way more than other players). The old “familiarity breeds contempt” idea in practice, really. Oh and possibly the stereotype of Brits being massive moaners in general may come in to play too . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Not sure what kind of fee they'd ask for but I'd much prefer a move for Eze than Gallagher if it was possible. Think he'd slot in brilliantly into our current system and could play centrally or wide. Probably only the previous injury is a red flag. Tbh I'd probably even prefer him to Maddison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 41 minutes ago, The Prophet said: If we did part with serious cash for Gallagher, there's no way that he's coming in as a squad player. I also couldn't care whether that cash is going to Chelsea, our own needs are far more important. But Chelsea repairing themselves affects us... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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