cannybagoftudor Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 9 hours ago, SUPERTOON said: He’s 17 ? bit early to write him off A very fair point ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Thinking of Andrey Santos and Angelo Gabriel. Because they are both of "academy age" does it count when it comes to FFP? Read some people saying that it doesn't count when it comes to FFP. Would be shrewd moves if so. Sounds too good though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 No, transfer fees count regardless as far as I understand. Some investment in the Academy is exempt but not fees. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 May as well get Endrick while we’re at it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 I watch a lot of South American football, and can see why we have an interest in Brazil. Seem to be producing some mega talent right now. I would look at Argentina too. eg: Alan Varela from Boca would be a great DM. He will certainly move to a big European club Boca is a mess of a club (although they won the league). They have so much talent not even getting a game, or out on loan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Would be ecstatic with Diaby or Mudryk in January alongside a DM. Fill those 2 positions and I think we’d be right in the battle for a top 4 place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Not a chance we get Mudryk with Europe's elite circling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emotic Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Imagine if we'd landed Santos, Gabriel, Endrick and they join Kuol in our academy- godfathered by Bruno, Joelinton and St Max - that'd be some flair academy and a superb young family of talent that could break into the first team in thee or four years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 3 hours ago, David Edgar said: Not the best highlight reel. Everything cuts short before an assist/goal/key pass. Suggests he does a bit of dribbling - in a weak league - but not much in the final third. Mainly because he hasn’t produced owt. 1 goal in 60-odd appearances. Most of those dribbles are left-right or vice versa, or go nowhere. YouTube can make anyone look decent. Nothing to get excited about from that clip to be frank - doesn’t mean he’d be a bad signing, of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Emotic said: Imagine if we'd landed Santos, Gabriel, Endrick and they join Kuol in our academy- godfathered by Bruno, Joelinton and St Max - that'd be some flair academy and a superb young family of talent that could break into the first team in thee or four years. We’re not getting Endrick like haha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Ikon said: Thinking of Andrey Santos and Angelo Gabriel. Because they are both of "academy age" does it count when it comes to FFP? Read some people saying that it doesn't count when it comes to FFP. Would be shrewd moves if so. Sounds too good though. No, it will count. Youth development costs can be excluded - this is how the PL rules define these costs: “A.1.252. “Youth Development Expenditure” means expenditure by a Club directly attributable to activities to train, educate and develop Academy Players net of any portion of Central Funds paid to Clubs solely for the purpose of such activities” So if you spend £20m on a 16-year-old, you might be able to deduct training and education costs. Not the transfer fee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emotic Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 18 minutes ago, Jack27 said: We’re not getting Endrick like haha Surprisingly, there are a few players out there who are "too good for us". He's one of them. Magnificent player, such maturity and talent for a bairn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 I don't think there are many players we should write off our ability to sign right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 34 minutes ago, Emotic said: Surprisingly, there are a few players out there who are "too good for us". He's one of them. Magnificent player, such maturity and talent for a bairn. Not sure a 16 year old lad can be classed as too good for us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ9 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Jeff Endrick, too good for NUFC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emotic Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 44 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Not sure a 16 year old lad can be classed as too good for us Don't get me wrong, I'd be over the moon if Endrick shows up on Tyneside. Be a real show of intent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 I must be one of few who is actually not really bothered about signing a designated defensive midfielder. I thought we probably needed one in the summer but I think if you can set up a team to play without one then that is far preferable. If you get the requisite energy, workrate and quality on the ball from a midfield 3 you don't need somebody who is exclusively there to enforce. Adding more quality and depth to the midfield area - sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: I must be one of few who is actually not really bothered about signing a designated defensive midfielder. I thought we probably needed one in the summer but I think if you can set up a team to play without one then that is far preferable. If you get the requisite energy, workrate and quality on the ball from a midfield 3 you don't need somebody who is exclusively there to enforce. Adding more quality and depth to the midfield area - sure. This Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: I must be one of few who is actually not really bothered about signing a designated defensive midfielder. I thought we probably needed one in the summer but I think if you can set up a team to play without one then that is far preferable. If you get the requisite energy, workrate and quality on the ball from a midfield 3 you don't need somebody who is exclusively there to enforce. Adding more quality and depth to the midfield area - sure. Agree entirely. Off the ball our strategy is to win possession as high up the pitch as possible in spaces where a traditional CDM doesn't operate; meanwhile relying on the physicality and stamina of our midfielders and wingers to get back and defend as a collective when it's in our half. The most recent examples of that 'destroyer' player we've had - Tiote, Diame, Hayden (to a far less effective extent) - would be completely redundant in Howe's current system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Most top teams have a great DM mind. Rodri, Fabinho, Casemiro, Kimmich and Busquets and the likes have all been instrumental in their clubs' success over the last few years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Just now, The Butcher said: Most top teams have a great DM mind. Rodri, Fabinho, Casemiro, Kimmich and Busquets and the likes have all been instrumental in their clubs' success over the last few years. Eh? ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 They just have to be really good on the ball and capable of reading the game really well. It's not their job to just sit in front of the back four purely defensively, but it's an important area of the pitch to occupy and provide a bit of security - either a passing option or someone to nip in and tidy up if the ball if loose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Joelinton is pretty much our DM, just that he does it from an ALM position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Just now, Nobody said: Joelinton is pretty much our DM, just that he does it from an ALM position. Aye, most of his defensive contribution comes from absolutely pacing it back twenty yards and sticking a foot out to flick the ball back to us. It's amazing how delicate his touch is when he nabs the ball away given how he juggernauts his way back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Just now, gbandit said: Aye, most of his defensive contribution comes from absolutely pacing it back twenty yards and sticking a foot out to flick the ball back to us. It's amazing how delicate his touch is when he nabs the ball away given how he juggernauts his way back I think we’ll bring in a new number 6 next summer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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