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Anyone else watching Goals on Sunday?

 

They've got Tim Cahill on and, at the beginning, as he was talking about his career to date all he could fucking mention was about breaking into new 'markets' and commercial opportunities when discussing his moves to the US and China.

 

Proper weird to have a sportsman talk about himself in such a financial sense. He barely mentioned the game and his latter career was essentially all about the dollar.

 

Odd as fuck to see him be so open about it.

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The loan system is a joke. Chelsea run a model now where player recruitment is more like asset management than squad building, designed purely to hoover up talent and flip them on at a profit. It's a pretty successful model too (despite the likes of Salah, De Bruyne, Lukaku slipping through the net...) and an obvious culture shift from the club as it enters a period where their spending power will likely diminish slightly during the construction of the new stadium.

 

The loan system in it's current model is exploitative of players, in that it very often hurts the development of both the youngsters who enter academies and particularly expensive recruits who become loan fodder. It's also a negative for the power balance of the league in that it allows big clus to hold all the cards. For example a club like Chelsea potentially beating a smaller club to a player, loaning him out to said club for a couple of years so he can develop, and then they either keep said player or charge the smaller club a huge chunk of TV money to buy him. In a world where the loan system doesn't exist said player would have instead joined the smaller club in the first place, developed there, and then benefited them by being sold on. The loan system is theoretically a good thing for youth development, but in a world of unlimited squads it becomes a tool for reinforcing already existing structural inequalities between clubs and often to the detriment of many players.

 

In a world where the loan system doesn't exist (or is at least severely curtailed), less players will make the often bad choice of joining a team that is way too strong for their abilities, and will instead go straight to a smaller club to play regularly. There's no doubt the likes of Kenedy and Atsu have wasted years of their careers. This will in turn mean smaller club takes on all the benefits of purchasing and developing the player, rather than developing the player for somebody else and then either a. losing them or b. paying a small fortune to sign the player.

 

 

I’ve said this for years. Can’t understand anyone’s thinking who support the loan system. Squad sizes should be far stricter in size and let players find there own level at a bigger pool of clubs and if the bigger clubs really want them they have to pay big money whilst also deciding who they let go to allow them to join.

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''Pardew was a decent guy but people hated him for whatever reason'

 

''Under him we finished 5th. It's not happened previously and it won't happen since''  :lol:

 

''Problem with the transfer policy, 5 years ago was we were buying foreigners who were nowhere near the same level of Peter Ramage and Steven Taylor''

 

 

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"Part 2 includes Mick informing us ..."

 

That seems like the perfect way to describe someone spouting the rubbish quoted above who you certainly don't want to engage in conversation.

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We're top half in our first season back after promotion and have an optimistic future ahead under Rafa, Pardew humiliated and sacked, Sunderland going down to League One, it's been a pretty enjoyable season so far.

 

A takeover in the summer and I reckon we'll be looking back on this as a pivotal season in our clubs history.

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Guest firetotheworks

Lowes defended Pardew, Carver, and Ashley to the hilt and never once took Pardew to task, always perpetuating the 'be careful what you wish for' narrative. Anderson was exactly the same, going further and saying after the Stoke protest that the fans 'should be ashamed of themselves' for the 'vicious' way that we treated Pardew. When it was pointed out that this is the man who headbutted an opposition player, called an opposition manager an old cunt, and pushed a linesman, his response was 'oh, so that makes it alright then does, it?' - Yes John, yes it does make it alright.

 

Lest we forget:

Lowes...

 

On Pardew.

 

Pardew took charge in December 2010 and was named Barclays Manager of the Season 18 months later, having guided the club to fifth and a place in the Europa League.

That was Newcastle's highest finish since the 1996/97 campaign, when they were runners-up to Manchester United.

Just casually writing SBR out of the club's history there for some reason.

 

On the fans following the Pardew protests.

In the unfortunate position of being in NINE with people from work (not drinking until we move on) and Mick Lowes is here with some younger lady at the bar. Described Newcastle fans OR a set of Newcastle fans that he knows personally as 'pathetic' and 'So fucking petty.'

 

Bonus Ben Arfa nonsense.

Mick Lowes 'He's let every club down that he's been at, and ultimately he's not delivered here'

:anguish:

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Lowes at a talk-in with Pardew which I attended tried to get the room to stand up and give the then manager of the year a standing ovation, one or two did, the rest were too busy tucking into pie and chips and gulping luke warm piss passed off as beer. Pardew looked devastated. Good the cunt.

 

As for Lowes, he’s a sleazy fat fuck with a few skeletons in his cupboard which will hopefully come out one day. Never liked him as a commentator, much preferred the guy he replaced at BBC Radio Newcastle whole name I can’t remember, he was commentator during our 93 promotion season and the season after I think.

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Bas Dost took a touch before scoring for the first time since March 2017. His goal against Belenenses ended an incredible run of 45 first-time finishes.

 

That's unbelievable.

 

I can’t even fathom that. Is he a prolific noggin blaster?

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Bas Dost took a touch before scoring for the first time since March 2017. His goal against Belenenses ended an incredible run of 45 first-time finishes.

 

That's unbelievable.

 

I can’t even fathom that. Is he a prolific noggin blaster?

He's scored 68 times since he moved to Sporting, only 4 of them has he taken a touch first.

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