Hanshithispantz Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 I can understand Lampard raging but I cannot see how it’s wrong if there’s no rules against it like. There should be though, spying on the other team is fucking outrageous behaviour Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 It's a shitty thing to do imo, it's basically cheating. It's not basically cheating. There isn't a bullet point in the rulebook but it's basically cheating. It's ungentlemanly conduct; so long as not everyone is doing it, which would be a nightmare, it's an unfair advantage imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 I guess it's more that say Derby were coming with something different for the Leeds game in training, that goes out the window if Leeds know what it was. Cheating maybe, maybe not, certainly isn't a nice thing to do, funny as feck mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 It’s disrespectful and kind of silly, I bet if someone from Derby did the same the manager of Leeds would kick off. Reeks of amateurism tbh. Guessing you didn't read how it's common place in South America so bielsa wouldn't bat an eyelid if another team did it to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Pardew was right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Pardew was right. Was just an ego trip for him. As if anyone was interested in or scared by his tactical genius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Pardew was right. Was just an ego trip for him. As if anyone was interested in or scared by his tactical genius 'Their main plan seems to involve floating it to the back post....' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 I've always instinctively disliked Lampard then actually found him to be ok when actually listening to him and I can understand him being pissed, but the infraction seems minor and the sport is hardly some great moral force to get righteous about Correct answer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 It’s disrespectful and kind of silly, I bet if someone from Derby did the same the manager of Leeds would kick off. Reeks of amateurism tbh. Guessing you didn't read how it's common place in South America so bielsa wouldn't bat an eyelid if another team did it to him. Yeah just seems like it's fairly standard abroad so would explain Bielsa's relaxed attitude to the cheating allegation. At least it shows he takes his job seriously, I know of a couple of big name English managers who didn't even turn up for training some days of the week. That's cheating of a different type in my book. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morla84 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 It’s disrespectful and kind of silly, I bet if someone from Derby did the same the manager of Leeds would kick off. Reeks of amateurism tbh. Guessing you didn't read how it's common place in South America so bielsa wouldn't bat an eyelid if another team did it to him. Yeah just seems like it's fairly standard abroad so would explain Bielsa's relaxed attitude to the cheating allegation. At least it shows he takes his job seriously, I know of a couple of big name English managers who didn't even turn up for training some days of the week. That's cheating of a different type in my book. Ferguson never used to turn up to training until Thursdays did he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 It’s disrespectful and kind of silly, I bet if someone from Derby did the same the manager of Leeds would kick off. Reeks of amateurism tbh. Guessing you didn't read how it's common place in South America so bielsa wouldn't bat an eyelid if another team did it to him. Yeah just seems like it's fairly standard abroad so would explain Bielsa's relaxed attitude to the cheating allegation. At least it shows he takes his job seriously, I know of a couple of big name English managers who didn't even turn up for training some days of the week. That's cheating of a different type in my book. Ferguson never used to turn up to training until Thursdays did he? I was thinking of O'Neill and Clough actually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Leeds' Statement “Following comments made by Marcelo Bielsa the club will look to work with our head coach and his staff to remind them of the integrity and honesty which are the foundations that Leeds United is built on. :lol: Look I agree it's a bit off and can understand why Lampard is upset, however it is a) not massively unfair as it is as available for Derby to do as for Leeds and all competitive sport is about gaining an advantage, this is just going to great lengths to do so, b) dwarfed by the dishonesty and poor behavior endemic throughout the leagues, (and I'm willing to bet it's not actually that unusual to be spying on other training grounds) and c) not I'm guessing that effective, yes they learned a player wouldn't be available but so what, Leeds were substantially better than Derby on the pitch and sorry that is 99% about the general conditioning tactics and form of the players. It is also the funniest thing to happen in the league for a while and to be honest I doubt the football league will be greatly upset for the publicity. It is at worst a slap on the wrist crime not worthy of huge great moral fulminations for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 more pics on the link Got the full set done and selling it as a print now: https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/660387742/newcastle-united-panini-cheapskates?ref=shop_home_active_1&crt=1 Already got this print for Christmas https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/610971358/newcastle-united-a3-subbuteo-print?ga_search_query=Newcastle&ref=shop_items_search_2# ... Can't find any justifiable reason to not get the panini one as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Steve Harper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chicken little Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 http://i.huffpost.com/gen/4064322/thumbs/o-ADAM-JOHNSON-570.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Would be class if Squires does similar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Apparently Klopp said this the other day? “But we already have problems line-up wise. I saw Chelsea v Tottenham with both benches full of players I know, full squads. That means no kids around. Lucky them.” Utter bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 It's a shitty thing to do imo, it's basically cheating. It's not basically cheating. How is that an argument? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 It's a shitty thing to do imo, it's basically cheating. It's not basically cheating. How is that an argument? Well its not against any rules so its literally not cheating. If we’re getting into morality then one team being able to spend £200m on players while another can spend £1m on players is a much bigger unfair advantage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 It's a shitty thing to do imo, it's basically cheating. It's not basically cheating. How is that an argument? Well its not against any rules so its literally not cheating. If we’re getting into morality then one team being able to spend £200m on players while another can spend £1m on players is a much bigger unfair advantage There not being a rule against it doesn't justify it because it's absolutely a moral issue. I'm not sure how whataboutism changes that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 It's a shitty thing to do imo, it's basically cheating. It's not basically cheating. How is that an argument? Well its not against any rules so its literally not cheating. If we’re getting into morality then one team being able to spend £200m on players while another can spend £1m on players is a much bigger unfair advantage There not being a rule against it doesn't justify it because it's absolutely a moral issue. I'm not sure how whataboutism changes that. It is a moral issue, there’s just much bigger moral issues being ignored in the game so I don’t see why this is such a big deal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 It's a shitty thing to do imo, it's basically cheating. It's not basically cheating. How is that an argument? Well its not against any rules so its literally not cheating. If we’re getting into morality then one team being able to spend £200m on players while another can spend £1m on players is a much bigger unfair advantage There not being a rule against it doesn't justify it because it's absolutely a moral issue. I'm not sure how whataboutism changes that. It is a moral issue, there’s just much bigger moral issues being ignored in the game so I don’t see why this is such a big deal Well because it's one that can actually be stopped with a rule change for a start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 It's a shitty thing to do imo, it's basically cheating. It's not basically cheating. How is that an argument? Well its not against any rules so its literally not cheating. If we’re getting into morality then one team being able to spend £200m on players while another can spend £1m on players is a much bigger unfair advantage There not being a rule against it doesn't justify it because it's absolutely a moral issue. I'm not sure how whataboutism changes that. It is a moral issue, there’s just much bigger moral issues being ignored in the game so I don’t see why this is such a big deal Well because it's one that can actually be stopped with a rule change for a start. So can a lot of moral issues that nobody cares about Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 It's a shitty thing to do imo, it's basically cheating. It's not basically cheating. How is that an argument? Well its not against any rules so its literally not cheating. If we’re getting into morality then one team being able to spend £200m on players while another can spend £1m on players is a much bigger unfair advantage There not being a rule against it doesn't justify it because it's absolutely a moral issue. I'm not sure how whataboutism changes that. It is a moral issue, there’s just much bigger moral issues being ignored in the game so I don’t see why this is such a big deal Well because it's one that can actually be stopped with a rule change for a start. So can a lot of moral issues that nobody cares about Why do you keep making the same point? There being other things that need to change doesn't make this one that shouldn't be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
summerof69 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 It's a shitty thing to do imo, it's basically cheating. It's not basically cheating. How is that an argument? Well its not against any rules so its literally not cheating. If we’re getting into morality then one team being able to spend £200m on players while another can spend £1m on players is a much bigger unfair advantage There not being a rule against it doesn't justify it because it's absolutely a moral issue. I'm not sure how whataboutism changes that. It is a moral issue, there’s just much bigger moral issues being ignored in the game so I don’t see why this is such a big deal Well because it's one that can actually be stopped with a rule change for a start. So can a lot of moral issues that nobody cares about Why do you keep making the same point? There being other things that need to change doesn't make this one that shouldn't be. Yep Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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