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:thup: thanks for link. Great article. The whole system is a fucking mess. We need something which takes ‘ownership’ (of the academies and the young slaves) away from businesses. Must be some learning to be had from the USA?

 

 

At the lower levels I suppose we do okay. At the higher levels we just whore out our colleges and universities instead of doing it straight up "for profit" though.

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Worst thing is this "FLA" is being widely accepted as a good thing.

 

 

What is it ?

 

A group that claims to be against extremism in all kinds, but in reality was very quiet about Jo Cox and Finsbury Park and only pipes up when a Muslim does something.

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Worst thing is this "FLA" is being widely accepted as a good thing.

 

 

What is it ?

Football Lads Association, they claim to protest against extreamism without being racist, however they have only protesters against the Islamic extremist attacks and not recognised non-Islamic ones. They also claim to be peaceful, however it’s founder has been banned from attending any football match for 3 years due to violence at games. So basically it’s just another pop-up racist group hoping to incite violence and are using football and football fans as their means.

 

They can fuck off calling them football fans. I’m sick of thugs from the 70’s and 80’s clinging onto the fighting they did and saying they were defending their area/club. I’m sick of them writing about it in ‘fanzines’, autobiographies, etc. I’m sick of them being the guy in the crowd calling someone/player a derogatory name. I’m sick of them using derbies or other large events to come out of the woodwork and cause trouble, and I’m sick of them calling themselves football fans doing so and I’m sick of being looked down upon for being a football fan because of people like them.

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:thup: thanks for link. Great article. The whole system is a f***ing mess. We need something which takes ‘ownership’ (of the academies and the young slaves) away from businesses. Must be some learning to be had from the USA?

 

Youth Soccer in the US is split into two main sections -

 

Rec Soccer - Local town soccer associations having open enrollment for anyone to play.  Players are randomly allocated to teams (no drafting/picking players) but generally you have the right to return to the same team each season. Coaching is the teams responsibility,  so it's almost always a parent of one of the players who coaches.  This is available from 4yrs through to U19.  League fees are usually around $100 for an 8-10 game season (one spring, one Autumn/Fall)

 

The other is Academy or Select soccer. This is the true pay-to-play soccer.  There are tryouts and recruiting, paid coaches and that sense of entitlement that comes from paying between $2000 and $4000 per season to play.  There are probably 10-15 Academies my area (Dallas/Ft Worth) so some play in higher leagues than others. Select soccer is usually where the kids who are good (or whose parents think they are good) will go play, and this is the path that you need to go to play soccer for your highschool and/or into College.  There is a high drop out rate around the 14-16 age when the amount of practice/games gets to not be fun any more, or where the players get more bench time than game time.

 

I think the difference in the US, is that the peak of any non-professional sport seems to be through the university route, so study and grades remains important. The idea of dropping out of the education route to focus on sports (and the risk that carries for those that don't succeed) is not something that the US mindset would agree to.

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Eh? Surely he doesn’t support that incredibly grim FLA thing?

 

Pretty sure Hughton actually has a history of being involved in left politics. Also had not heard of that FLA before this.

 

From his wiki page:

 

Hughton wrote a column for the Workers' Revolutionary Party publication News Line in the 1970s.[64][72] Hughton plays down the Trotskyist connection: "it's probably not as dramatic as it sounds. I've always had strong views on social issues such as hospitals - I think we should have a good health system - and the education system, too ... These days, players can do as many interviews and columns as they want. Back in the day, it wasn't like that. Anyway, I'm sure I wrote about football and football issues. Nothing else."[64] He is a member of the Labour Party.[73]
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The American college system seems exploitative.  Colleges make millions, players get scholarships and a pat on the back.  No dough though.

A scholarship at a top 100 D1 school is probably worth anywhere from $100,000 to $200,000 when you factor in tuition payments for the degree, accommodation and meals etc. not to mention the shoes and clothing that they get given to wear.

At smaller D2 and D3 schools the tuition/room/board package would be less but those kids are there to play now and will not be going pro.

 

 

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Eh? Surely he doesn’t support that incredibly grim FLA thing?

 

Pretty sure Hughton actually has a history of being involved in left politics. Also had not heard of that FLA before this.

 

From his wiki page:

 

Hughton wrote a column for the Workers' Revolutionary Party publication News Line in the 1970s.[64][72] Hughton plays down the Trotskyist connection: "it's probably not as dramatic as it sounds. I've always had strong views on social issues such as hospitals - I think we should have a good health system - and the education system, too ... These days, players can do as many interviews and columns as they want. Back in the day, it wasn't like that. Anyway, I'm sure I wrote about football and football issues. Nothing else."[64] He is a member of the Labour Party.[73]

 

“Could I have gone into politics? No, probably not. I’ve been a lifelong member of the Labour Party, but I’ve never been a radical thinker. I’ve always had a social conscience, a belief in everyone’s right to a good education, to free, high quality health care, to good, clean and safe social housing.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/01/19/chris-hughton-have-affection-newcastle-now-really-dont-want/

 

Good egg.

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A second escort, Michaela Carter, added to the publication that they eventually told him that they “couldn’t give him extra time".

 

They definitely didn't say that.

 

Fangs but no fangs.

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A second escort, Michaela Carter, added to the publication that they eventually told him that they “couldn’t give him extra time".

 

They definitely didn't say that.

"Throw in" another tenner and we'll give you "a lovely finish"
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