toon25 Posted September 1, 2025 Share Posted September 1, 2025 The bare-faced arrogance of Dipper fans has come to fruition, gallingly. Still recall a podcast in which we were told we'd 'have to accept' 125. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted September 1, 2025 Share Posted September 1, 2025 (edited) 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: My biggest issue is we’ve only signed one potential game changer this window. Feels like we’re a bit weaker this season. Obviously that could/should all change today. The jury is out on the transfer window imo, will need to see in a few months how it's gone but if Woltemade is our only recognised striker we've taken a ridiculous risk. Ramsey and Elanga are good signings, I don't rate Thiaw at all. Edited September 1, 2025 by El Prontonise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted September 1, 2025 Share Posted September 1, 2025 Hope this turns out as good as Carroll did for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted September 1, 2025 Share Posted September 1, 2025 Who is Nick W replacing? Isak or Wilson? I'd assumed the latter though I get they aren't like for like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted September 1, 2025 Share Posted September 1, 2025 Fuck off you little shit. Look forward to jo-e-lin-ton having a crunch on yer bones Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearljam10 Posted September 1, 2025 Share Posted September 1, 2025 6 minutes ago, soyt said: Makes perfect sense now, maybe he did not want us to get CL so he could use that as reason for wanting the move Correct Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoricGinola Posted September 1, 2025 Share Posted September 1, 2025 2 minutes ago, STM said: We'd have had to pay Isak 5m because he hadnt handed in a transfer request. However, seemingly hes not getting it, therefore its 5m extra for us. Liverpool are paying 125. The modern game is sickening Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted September 1, 2025 Share Posted September 1, 2025 Just now, La Parka said: Fuck off you little shit. Look forward to jo-e-lin-ton having a crunch on yer bones It'll more likely be a burn slide tackle and he'll not get up. 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted September 1, 2025 Share Posted September 1, 2025 Shame. Don't really care about the price. Would just be nice to see this behavior not being rewarded and us having a full season to find a suitable replacement while Woltemade is bedding in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 1, 2025 Share Posted September 1, 2025 4 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: To stick to their word. - get the fee they had briefed or close. Not 15% less. - have the replacements through the door first - sign high ceiling replacements or don’t overpay for a middling talent I predicted this though. I said we would sell for less than what we are asking for, considerably so. And then overspend on a Wissa or JSL type signing. Panic sell panic buy. PIF haven’t shown an ability to handle difficult situations. I don’t see how it can be a panic, it’s being going on for months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted September 1, 2025 Share Posted September 1, 2025 2 minutes ago, Vaj said: Don't have time to read back. Have we worked out what the hell this solidarity payment of £5m is for and who pays that to us if it isn't Liverpool? Never seen it reported on a deal in my life! Also, is their a reported figure for the loyalty payment we don't have to pay? I mentioned last night that I think we could have legally not paid it as his actions constituted a transfer request. It will be spun as Isak giving it up though to force his dream move. Solidarity is explained in spoiler below. It's fairly long. As for loyalty bonus, best I can surmise is that it varies but could be up to 10% of contract so £6.3m, but we don't know. Spoiler FIFA’s solidarity mechanism says: 5% of the transfer fee is distributed among the clubs that trained the player from ages 12–23. Each year counts for a specific % of the 5%: Ages 12–15 → 0.25% each year (1% total) Ages 16–23 → 0.5% each year (4% total) Total = 5%. Isak clubs AIK (Sweden): age 12–17 (2012–2017) → 6 years Borussia Dortmund: age 17–19 (2017–2019) → 2 years Willem II (loan): age 19 (2019) → less than a year, counts as part of age 19 Real Sociedad: age 19–22 (2019–2022) → 3 years Newcastle: age 22–25 (2022–2025) → 1 year in the 12–23 window Breakdown of £125m 5% of £125m = £6.25m total solidarity pot. AIK: ages 12–17 = 6 “training years” → 2.25% of fee = £2.81m Borussia Dortmund: ages 17–19 = 2 years → 1% of fee = £1.25m Willem II (loan): technically included for part of age 19 → pro-rated, maybe ~£0.3–0.4m Real Sociedad: ages 19–22 = 3 years → 1.5% of fee = £1.88m Newcastle: age 22–23 = 1 year → 0.5% of fee = £0.63m So the biggest winner is AIK, his boyhood club in Stockholm — they’ll get almost £3m from this Liverpool move! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted September 1, 2025 Share Posted September 1, 2025 (edited) 1 minute ago, Hhtoon said: Who is Nick W replacing? Isak or Wilson? I'd assumed the latter though I get they aren't like for like. Isak really. But he needs to get used the league. Isak had Callum Wilson playing to help/give him time to bed in that first season, which will be why EH wants another with premier league experience, ala Wissa or Larsen. Edited September 1, 2025 by TK-421 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted September 1, 2025 Share Posted September 1, 2025 1 minute ago, The College Dropout said: To stick to their word. - get the fee they had briefed or close. Not 15% less. - have the replacements through the door first - sign high ceiling replacements or don’t overpay for a middling talent I predicted this though. I said we would sell for less than what we are asking for, considerably so. And then overspend on a Wissa or JSL type signing. Panic sell panic buy. PIF haven’t shown an ability to handle difficult situations. I think its pretty clear that our fans are annoyed, rightly annoyed and me trying to bring the positivity at this moment isnt going to work, so im going to bow out. However, you TCD and your ability to turn up like fucking Batman to the Bat signal at any sign of negativity is ridiculous. Nowhere to be seen when things are going well. You've got this theory about the club being poorly run, fine, but you also thought we had a shit manager until he won us a cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted September 1, 2025 Share Posted September 1, 2025 1 minute ago, Hhtoon said: Did they ever state what those conditions were? I think given the constant media talk about two strikers coming in (an Isak replacement and a Wilson one), it's not a massive stretch to assume that the club saw that as a priority before Isak could be sold and meant that when they said conditions weren't met. They could have meant something entirely different, I suppose. But that's not exactly showing a strong position if the conditions were indeed less than that very basic need for the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted September 1, 2025 Share Posted September 1, 2025 Awesome for AIK tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted September 1, 2025 Share Posted September 1, 2025 1 minute ago, Hhtoon said: Who is Nick W replacing? Isak or Wilson? I'd assumed the latter though I get they aren't like for like. Isak eventually you’d assume but he’s different type of player it seems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted September 1, 2025 Share Posted September 1, 2025 5 minutes ago, STM said: I can see a scenario where he stayed, it took a month to get him up to speed and he put in performances at 80%, even if he scored 15 goals, his value next summer would plummet. For the club it was a risk. Accepting his demands is a risk as well. Every player, club, and agent has just seen that going on strike at Newcastle works like a charm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted September 1, 2025 Share Posted September 1, 2025 (edited) 3 minutes ago, El Prontonise said: The jury is out on the transfer window imo, will need to see in a few months how it's gone but if Woltemade is our only recognised striker we've taken a ridiculous risk. Ramsey and Elanga are good signings, I don't rate Thiaw at all. We also would have put him in a terrible position that could set him back if we don't ease the burden on him. Edited September 1, 2025 by Vinny Green Balls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted September 1, 2025 Share Posted September 1, 2025 Just now, Vinny Green Balls said: We've also put him in a terrible position that could set him back. 100% agree with that, it's a lot of pressure on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted September 1, 2025 Share Posted September 1, 2025 3 minutes ago, Flip said: Hope this turns out as good as Carroll did for them. What moves for over £100m have ever worked out superb? He’ll be itching to move on in 3 years, so it’s a long wait till we can gloat, hopefully they have no titles to show for it by then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 1, 2025 Share Posted September 1, 2025 3 minutes ago, Shearergol said: My biggest issue is we’ve only signed one potential game changer this window. Feels like we’re a bit weaker this season. Obviously that could/should all change today. Aye. It’s a weaker window than the last CL spree. And we’ve sold our best player. We’ve signed a bunch of Harvey Barnes level talents. Ramsdale aside everyone has been signed for a premium. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted September 1, 2025 Share Posted September 1, 2025 Fee is £130m. No loyalty bonus. No early break of current wage structure. Sad affair all round but he was only ever a B Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted September 1, 2025 Share Posted September 1, 2025 15 minutes ago, Nucasol said: This, Shallow Grave? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 1, 2025 Share Posted September 1, 2025 2 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said: We also would have put him in a terrible position that could set him back if we don't ease the burden on him. We didn't play Isak as an out-and-out striker when he first joined and I can similar for NW, which even more underlines the need for a body through the door tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted September 1, 2025 Share Posted September 1, 2025 2 minutes ago, Kimbo said: Accepting his demands is a risk as well. Every player, club, and agent has just seen that going on strike at Newcastle works like a charm. It still requires a club to pay big though, not many in the world that can drop record transfer fees. If we was talking half the sum, even less if the player had one year left, I think our stance would be different. End of the day, it’s a fee that will be hard to break in the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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