Alexander Isak - C*nt (resting his glass bones so he can get properly injured at the world cup)

[Whitley mag]

17 minutes ago, Sibierski said:

Think even if Isak stayed, I’m not sure we would’ve seen much from him. His groin seemed fucked last season when he was barely moving in games, and it’s continued this season. Always felt it was surgery needed, but when he was here we went with ‘rest will sort it’, and it’s not really helped and still isn’t that same approach.

 

Liverpool need to accept he needs to get under the knife and he’s out till March.

If we’d forced him to stay and he’d ended up missing this many games and being shite, he’d be getting pelters and we’d be questioning the decision not to get rid.

 

It was the right decision just a shame we didn’t have a cohesive plan and DOF in place to spend it wisely.

[Zero]

Given his injury and attitude problem he simply won’t play for us and thus won’t have any contribution. In fact we would be even worse since we won’t have WTMD and Wissa. 

[Irish Paul]

With the benefit of hindsight who would people buy/sell? I assume everyone would still sell Isak and buy Thiaw but beyond that? 

 

Or in other words, who looks good that would have come here?

 

And, would you still sign Nick? Was Wissa the right signing but just rotten luck? Would anyone make a case for still signing Elanga, Ramsey etc?

 

Completely pointless but interesting question imho.

[Zero]

Good: Thiaw WTMD

Debatable: Ramsay

Bad: Wissa Elanga

 

To be fair to Wissa, he probably won’t be a bad signing if we didn’t sign WTMD.

 

Elanga has close to no excuse. On that price and from an EPL team it’s normal to expect him to contribute immediately, but, instead, he even perform a lot worse than his days at Forest

[aussiemag]

I would have liked a different profile to Ramsey. Someone who can control possession more. 

Should have forked out the $$ for Mbeumo. 

[Moose]

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48 minutes ago, Irish Paul said:

With the benefit of hindsight who would people buy/sell? I assume everyone would still sell Isak and buy Thiaw but beyond that? 

 

Or in other words, who looks good that would have come here?

 

And, would you still sign Nick? Was Wissa the right signing but just rotten luck? Would anyone make a case for still signing Elanga, Ramsey etc?

 

Completely pointless but interesting question imho.

 

Elanga - Poor, he was signed to be the solution to our RW problem and we're now back to Murphy as our starter. His best attribute is his athleticism which is easily nullified by teams who sit deep who tend to be the ones we struggle against. Good player for the wrong team. He's not a write off, there's still time to improve.

Ramsdale - Small sample size, but he's perfectly adequate.

Thiaw - Brilliant signing, already the best defender at the club and he'll only get better. More of this kind of signing please!

Ramsey - I'm cautiously optimistic about him, I think he'll fall into the 'good servant' category but nothing spectacular.

Woltemade - Incredible footballer, there are times he feels like a square peg in a round hole, but it's down to the coaching staff to work the system around him to play to his strengths.

Wissa - Can't be anything other than disappointing, I know he didn't choose to be injured, but the best ability is availability  

[Dr.Spaceman]

16 minutes ago, Moose said:

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Elanga - Poor, he was signed to be the solution to our RW problem and we're now back to Murphy as our starter. His best attribute is his athleticism which is easily nullified by teams who sit deep who tend to be the ones we struggle against. Good player for the wrong team. He's not a write off, there's still time to improve.

Ramsdale - Small sample size, but he's perfectly adequate.

Thiaw - Brilliant signing, already the best defender at the club and he'll only get better. More of this kind of signing please!

Ramsey - I'm cautiously optimistic about him, I think he'll fall into the 'good servant' category but nothing spectacular.

Woltemade - Incredible footballer, there are times he feels like a square peg in a round hole, but it's down to the coaching staff to work the system around him to play to his strengths.

Wissa - Can't be anything other than disappointing, I know he didn't choose to be injured, but the best ability is availability  

 

Agree with all of them, but just wanted to highlight Ramsey after having seen some negative comments about him. He's different to what we've got, almost like what we thought Joe Willock would be at this stage of his career. Given how injury prone he is and how little he's played I still think there's a lot of to look forward to with him. He's clearly not the sort of player who you're going to be able to chuck straight in after a lay-off or rely on too heavily when he's not 100% but his 'DIY progessive-ness' is definitely something to work with.

[Crimson Cardigan]

1 hour ago, aussiemag said:

I would have liked a different profile to Ramsey. Someone who can control possession more. 

Should have forked out the $$ for Mbeumo. 

Mbeumo would never have signed for us. He “only wanted” Man Utd. A pity cos he would have been perfect.

[macphisto]

1 hour ago, Irish Paul said:

With the benefit of hindsight who would people buy/sell? I assume everyone would still sell Isak and buy Thiaw but beyond that? 

 

Or in other words, who looks good that would have come here?

 

And, would you still sign Nick? Was Wissa the right signing but just rotten luck? Would anyone make a case for still signing Elanga, Ramsey etc?

 

Completely pointless but interesting question imho.

With the benefit of hindsight I would have been much firmer with Liverpool and insisted on a free shot at getting Ekitike with us then selling them Isak. 

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

1 hour ago, aussiemag said:

Should have forked out the $$ for Mbeumo. 

We were absolutely not able to meet his wage demands, its not about choosing whether to fork out for it or not. 

[El Prontonise]

Just now, Super Duper Branko Strupar said:

We were absolutely not able to meet his wage demands, its not about choosing whether to fork out for it or not. 

 

Also I think he wanted to join Man Utd.

[Erikse]

2 hours ago, Crimson Cardigan said:

Mbeumo would never have signed for us. He “only wanted” Man Utd. A pity cos he would have been perfect.

 

Maybe he would in 2024. We were actually linked back then, no clue whether we actually tried to get him.

 

 

Edited November 11, 2025 by Erikse

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

We didnt have the funds to buy him last summer. He'd have likely wanted similar wages anyway.

[Geogaddi]

It's not as simple as saying we could have spent better in the summer , we tried to buy genuine next level sort of players and none of them wanted to come here so we had to make do with players a few levels below elite .

[Abacus]

Yeah, I don't think Mbuemo was coming here anyway, though he would have been a great signing.

 

Wissa is just dreadful luck. I'm really looking forward to the dynamic of him and Woltemade, whether it's playing together or rotation.

 

Elanga - I'm giving him a lot more time but so far not great or at least in the way we're playing which brings me to;

 

Ramsey - He's looked tidy enough without creating much in the brief time he's played. But you can say that for all of the team, it's a jigsaw puzzle that hasn't quite come together yet.

 

I think it starts at the front including the wingers and then when teams realise we're not much threat that sends us backwards, with long throws etc by some teams bypassing midfield.

 

A fit and firing Isak of old would have made a difference, but if we'd kept him in his current state he's no real loss. Plus he's an idiot.

[Colos Short and Curlies]

1 hour ago, macphisto said:

With the benefit of hindsight I would have been much firmer with Liverpool and insisted on a free shot at getting Ekitike with us then selling them Isak. 

 

We didn't have to be firmer, we could have quietly negotiated a £125m deal for Isak earlier in the summer and then moved for Ekitike with no competition

[kingxlnc]

1 hour ago, Colos Short and Curlies said:

 

We didn't have to be firmer, we could have quietly negotiated a £125m deal for Isak earlier in the summer and then moved for Ekitike with no competition

The problem was he was the poster boy for PIF, this NUFC side and they were reluctant to let him go on that basis - imagine Man C letting Aguero go before they had a chance to win the PL. The optics are terrible for the others who signed up for the grand vision etc. 

But the progress has slowed down majorly. I'm not sure if even 2030 is realistic anymore - we seem way too behind. 
In hindsight, having a 250m spend without a DOF was the wrong move. 
I can imagine there may be 2-3 big buys but there would also be depth added with foreign gems - like Man C and Khusanov, 25-30m's instead of every man and his dog costing us 40-50m plus. 

Elanga and Wissa are £110m between them. 

[NEEJ]

4 hours ago, Zero said:

Good: Thiaw WTMD

Debatable: Ramsay

Bad: Wissa Elanga

 

To be fair to Wissa, he probably won’t be a bad signing if we didn’t sign WTMD.

 

Elanga has close to no excuse. On that price and from an EPL team it’s normal to expect him to contribute immediately, but, instead, he even perform a lot worse than his days at Forest

Please stop this, man.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Bad signing when he hasn’t played yet. OK. 

[TaylorJ_01]

With Wissa I just get the fear. We signed him with maybe 2-3 seasons at top level and he's missed like 20% of that already.

[Froggy]

On 11/11/2025 at 10:49, Super Duper Branko Strupar said:

We were absolutely not able to meet his wage demands, its not about choosing whether to fork out for it or not. 

 

 

He's paid the same as Anthony Gordon mate.

[Geordie Ahmed]

3 hours ago, Froggy said:

 

 

He's paid the same as Anthony Gordon mate.

 

But that's not what Gordon was paid when we signed him

 

Plus reports suggest if you get CL then Mbeumo's wages will jump, don't think Gordon has such a clause

[Jimburst]

1 hour ago, Geordie Ahmed said:

 

But that's not what Gordon was paid when we signed him

 

Plus reports suggest if you get CL then Mbeumo's wages will jump, don't think Gordon has such a clause

 

Surely they double? Frog always going on about the benefits of not competing in the CL for that very reason.

[Froggy]

2 hours ago, Geordie Ahmed said:

But that's not what Gordon was paid when we signed him

 

Plus reports suggest if you get CL then Mbeumo's wages will jump, don't think Gordon has such a clause

 

I'll take it if it means we're in the CL. 

[BlueStar]