Alexander Isak: has a chance to play against Everton (Howe)

[Geogaddi]

Liverpool mate is adamant they won't be in for Isak , says the owners will never spend that amount of money on one player and they need other upgrades in the squad anyway .

[soyt]

 

[STM]

We absolutely won't sell Isak this summer and if he does leave, it will be abroad.

 

I'd take less money, if he went abroad.

 

Our aim is to win the league, you don't win the league by handing world class strikers to your rivals.

 

Abroad or nothing.

[The College Dropout]

20 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

These guys are all stuck in the past.

 

That period when Wenger, Ferguson, Rafa, Mourinho were kind of the initial wave of top managers from abroad and everyone else was still hiring the likes of Pardew, Pulis, Allardyce, Bruce, O'Neil etc are over. 

 

That would have been such a huge pull and advantage. Now someone like Iraola is at Bournemouth.

 

If we are able to offer Isak a competitive salary I don't see him pushing to join another Prem club.

 

He's just won a trophy playing in a side that beat Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool on the way there.

 

If he's ever tempted by a club it will be by a Barcelona.

If they have the money I think Liverpool, City & Arsenal could sign him and he would go for football reasons. Being able to stump up the cash for him is a sign of intent but I can only see Liverpool being willing to go there.

 

But as you say, it's a different day and era. The top 6 no longer exist in terms of on-the-pitch success. After Leicester won the PL the top 6 monopolised the CL places for 7-8 years straight. In that period, moving to any of the top 6 clubs was a genuine step up for footballing reasons. We will have a 3rd season in a row where a non-top 6 club will qualify for the CL again. Us doing so for the second time in 3 years. The only PL clubs that are worth moving from us need to be title challengers, the top 3 of the previous 2 seasons.

[KaKa]

5 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

If they have the money I think Liverpool, City & Arsenal could sign him and he would go for football reasons. Being able to stump up the cash for him is a sign of intent but I can only see Liverpool being willing to go there.

 

City have Haaland. They will not go for him.

 

As for the others, their teams are not that much better than ours for him to push to leave for footballing reasons, no chance.

 

This kind of thinking is typical of what we see from the media and the refs week in and week out. Always fawning over these clubs.

[ponsaelius]

I'd be annoyed if we don't price him out of a move basically. He has three years left - we can absolutely afford to keep him another year without seeing any drop in value.

 

If no new deal is signed then you have to consider it next year probably, but not now.

[The College Dropout]

17 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

City have Haaland. They will not go for him.

 

As for the others, their teams are not that much better than ours for him to push to leave for footballing reasons, no chance.

 

This kind of thinking is typical of what we see from the media and the refs week in and week out. Always fawning over these clubs.

If the current top 3 (City not Forest) put up the money Isak would go. None of them will imo. 

 

 

Edited March 24 by The College Dropout

[Erikse]

22 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

I'd be annoyed if we don't price him out of a move basically. He has three years left - we can absolutely afford to keep him another year without seeing any drop in value.

 

If no new deal is signed then you have to consider it next year probably, but not now.

 

Exactly, it would be much more likely for something to happen next summer if he doesn't sign a new contract. Even if he's considering other options, I doubt that he would be firmly against staying for another year, and then we will see where we are at after that. Fans of other clubs obviously buys the media talk, and when I try to reason with them, I'm being defensive since I'm a Newcastle fan. They made exact same arguments with Bruno the last 2 summers. "Waving goodbye to the fans" ffs. I'd be embarassed if I bought the media narratives like that, and then nothing happened. In 2023 I made a bet with a Barca fan on Bruno going, I gave him 5:2 in his favour, and added the january window on top of that, just to make all his comments even more humiliating when he lost. To him it was so obvious that he would leave. Never heard anything from him after, and he never paid up. Considering making more bets with Arsenal and Pool fans this summer on Isak, that should atleast humble them when nothing happens once again.

 

 

Edited March 24 by Erikse

[KaKa]

7 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

If the current top 3 (City not Forest) put up the money Isak would go. None of them will imo. 

 

 

 

 

Typical "top club" glazer.

 

[Skeletor]

I don't even think about him going because no-one could afford him anyway.

 

The media are absolutely desperate. Bringing up the Saudi stuff, linking Isak and Bruno to their darling clubs, getting the dinosaur ex-managers to all come out and say Eddie should have got the England job, trying to play down the significance of winning a Carabao Cup. Joe Kinnear was right, they're cunts.

 

 

Edited March 24 by Skeletor

[Ketsbaia]

Liverpool brought in that Michael Edwards guy (Moneyball?) and the same Richard Hughes that began Bournemouth's journey to bargains.

 

So I'd hope that means spending £120m+ on anybody is against their style and not what they were hired for.

[huss9]

8 minutes ago, Ketsbaia said:

Liverpool brought in that Michael Edwards guy (Moneyball?) and the same Richard Hughes that began Bournemouth's journey to bargains.

 

So I'd hope that means spending £120m+ on anybody is against their style and not what they were hired for.

unless you get the best player in europe in that position at his peak age.

[Kanj]

Liverpool look a lot less appealing when Trent is likely gone this summer, and ?s over Salah and Virgil staying next season. 

 

 

Edited March 24 by Kanj

[Dokko]

16 hours ago, Kanj said:

Liverpool look a lot less appealing when Trent is likely gone this summer, and ?s over Salah and Virgil staying next season. 

 

 

 

 

We need 3 key players to catapult us into the CL mix every season. Liverpool are going to need 3 key players to stand still. 

[Yorkie]

16 hours ago, Kanj said:

Liverpool look a lot less appealing when Trent is likely gone this summer, and ?s over Salah and Virgil staying next season. 

 

We'll be in the title race next season. No one above is is that impressive. 

[Dr.Spaceman]

19 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

We'll be in the title race next season. No one above is is that impressive. 

 

We need to have one hell of a summer before we're there. Exciting times 

[Yorkie]

Absolutely. Goes without saying that we'll have to recruit at the Tonali level again and keep everyone else but the hints are that we have the flexibility to do that. 

[gbandit]

I agree that we have the foundations for a title charge next season if we get three more first teamers. Our first 11 won’t be far off competing for it when fit as long as we don’t lose anyone but it’ll be our squad that stops us from putting together a consistent push for a few more years

[Ikon]

3 minutes ago, gbandit said:

I agree that we have the foundations for a title charge next season if we get three more first teamers. Our first 11 won’t be far off competing for it when fit as long as we don’t lose anyone but it’ll be our squad that stops us from putting together a consistent push for a few more years

This! Our squad depth will not be enough. Unless we manage to do even more than expected in the summer. Doubt we can afford it. (PSR)

 

 

Edited March 25 by Ikon

[ExiledGeordie]

13 minutes ago, gbandit said:

I agree that we have the foundations for a title charge next season if we get three more first teamers. Our first 11 won’t be far off competing for it when fit as long as we don’t lose anyone but it’ll be our squad that stops us from putting together a consistent push for a few more years

Probs need 2-3 yrs to have that squad in place what with PSR. Other teams and fans know it’s coming though (Villa will also get a lot stronger over next few years too).

 

 

Edited March 25 by ExiledGeordie

[kingxlnc]

Box clever with a few free transfers to pad out the squad and a few Minteh type of wildcard youngsters with 3-4 purple first teamers and jobs a good un

 

Would like to get this years Milenkovic at 13m etc - don’t stress about top top tier, think about value relative to ability. We tried to get our A which is Guehi but if a B is available at a quarter of the price then go for that, their value will increase anyway. 
 

looking at that squad scoring system:

we don’t need every signing to be an A like Tonali. B’s and C’s are useful especially since Wilson and Longstaff etc might be going. Raising the floor is important, as well as the ceiling.

[mighty__mag]

I'm not sure we'll be in a title race, feel you need to establish yourself as qualifying for the champions league season after season, finish in the top three (points) closely contested before that becomes a thing.

 

On the flipside though, if the recruitment was superior, then it's always a possibility.

 

I don't think going for Guehi at 60m takes us there, so hopefully Mitchell has had a whole season to be fastidious with the plans.

 

 

 

[The Prophet]

It'll be a good test of how far we've come in terms of managing European football next year.

[ExiledGeordie]

We need an elite RW and new pacey R CB and probably new keeper. Stuff after that includes solid back up striker, maybe an attacking midfielder option, good quality squad additions etc. 

 

If we get champions league I think this summer will be really exciting and we could have a really strong side next season.

 

 

Edited March 25 by ExiledGeordie

[ExiledGeordie]

21 minutes ago, mighty__mag said:

I'm not sure we'll be in a title race, feel you need to establish yourself as qualifying for the champions league season after season, finish in the top three (points) closely contested before that becomes a thing.

 

On the flipside though, if the recruitment was superior, then it's always a possibility.

 

I don't think going for Guehi at 60m takes us there, so hopefully Mitchell has had a whole season to be fastidious with the plans.

 

 

 

My guess is we go to the continent and get a new CB for 35ish but you

hope Mitchel has some Forest CB style bargains. RW is the one position where I think they might spunk the most money and maybe go for an Mbuemo type signing but again Mitchel might have some good options.
 

While in no way would I want Bruno to go I just wonder if someone comes nibbling and with his stock pretty high after winning the cup would we consider selling him this summer? He is the Captain though.