Alexander Isak - International C*nt

[Gawalls]

5 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

More fool you then

All we done even before Isakgate is just go for the same names that everybody knows in the prem and got gazumped , Trafford deal passed us by, no plans for Longstaff replacement and we knew he was going before the isak carry on and no CB lined up even though we’d sold Kelly and couldn’t bring Guehi in so must have been agreed we needed one, these are all things that could have been planned for long before the window opened so we could get business done early.  This is not planning.

 

 

Edited August 6, 2025 by Gawalls

[Mattoon]

1 minute ago, Toonpack said:

 

Our plans have turned into a pile of shite because of one thing, and that's Isak, we had planned to supplement him but, at the last minute, we have had to try and find a level of striker that could replace him plus the already needed Wilson replacement. All our other needs/targets will have been affected by the scrambling we're having to do for a new #1 striker.

 

If anything it's the snake's actions, and timing of those actions, that have thrown us into disarray.

 

Isak has made us pivot for sure, but let's not beat around the bush, we lurched from one failed transfer to the next before he threw his toys out the pram, I'd argue that our perceived impotence in the market was the touch paper for his actions.

 

I don't blame the club entirely, however we've known about Eales and Mitchell for some time and failed to act before the transfer window opened and have left ourselves short in a department that requires skills that those who have stepped into position don't have.

 

For me the ramifications of this failure have extremely long lasting effects and its not just about the current playing and coaching staff, uts about the gravitas of our "project" which will be a hard sell in future windows.

[Mattoon]

17 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

As long as we get a CB and CM I'd take DCL for free as a last resort if we're keeping Isak. 

 

The sooner some obscure European, Saudi or US team snap up DCL, the better, I'm sick of seeing that crocks name, there's a reason he's still available on a free, he's relegation fodder.

[Toonpack]

1 minute ago, Gawalls said:

All we done even before that is just go for the same names that everybody knows in the prem and got gasped, Trafford deal passed us by, no plans for Longstaff replacement and we knew he was going before the isak carry on and no CB lined up even though we’d sold Kelly and couldn’t bring Guehi in so must have been agreed we needed one, these are all things that could have been planned for long before the window opened so we could get business done early.  This is not planning.

Pure conjecture, they would have been planned but when all of a sudden you have to double (maybe treble) your budgetted striker outlay, that may, y'know, just cause knock effects somewhere.

[ExiledGeordie]

If we can’t get a top target to replace him he isn’t going anywhere imo. We’ll try and bed him back into the squad, smooth things over as much as we can, maybe give him a contract sweetener of sorts for the season and he’ll go next summer. I still think we’ll sign Wissa though. It’s still a dodgy situation if mentally he’s downed tools though, Howe will be critical here. 

 

 

Edited August 6, 2025 by ExiledGeordie

[Optimistic Nut]

If there's no striker signed by the weekend then we need to tell him the Liverpool transfer isn't happening, and we focus on getting the Wilson replacement, CB & CM before the window ends. 

[Paully]

Not sure how reliable but he has 574K followers - even if we don’t get Sesko which seems to be the case - I can’t see him playing for us again - what an absolute mess this window has been 

 

 

[r0cafella]

Just now, Paully said:

Not sure how reliable but he has 574K followers - even if we don’t get Sesko which seems to be the case - I can’t see him playing for us again - what an absolute mess this window has been 

 

 

This doesn't actually mean anything. He can tell us whatever he wants and we can and should promptly ignore it whilst writing up his next fine. 

[Mattoon]

2 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

This doesn't actually mean anything. He can tell us whatever he wants and we can and should promptly ignore it whilst writing up his next fine. 

 

If the choices are unhappy striker or no striker at all is it even a choice? No amount of money or unhappiness can substitute going into a new season with 4 competitions and around 50 games with Osula as our only option, no one is that stupid.

 

[Gawalls]

10 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

Pure conjecture, they would have been planned but when all of a sudden you have to double (maybe treble) your budgetted striker outlay, that may, y'know, just cause knock effects somewhere.

Again you’re excusing these things that should have been dealt with before isak and excusing them because of that, we s as could have got CM and CB in asap like we did with Elanga and that would have been good planning as we knew before window opened we needed these.

[Groundhog63]

........is a cunt

[black_n_white]

14 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

If there's no striker signed by the weekend then we need to tell him the Liverpool transfer isn't happening, and we focus on getting the Wilson replacement, CB & CM before the window ends. 

Yep. As I said I believe the deal with Liverpool has all been agreed for Isak pending an adequate replacement so it’ll be interesting how the club handle that today when the news eventually comes out sesko is off to Man Utd. There are going to be some interesting conversations in the club today. I’d expect Isak to be involved in some sort of training if those conversations go well.

 

 

Edited August 6, 2025 by black_n_white

[James]

If Isak formally tells us that he want to leave then we will get millions more from the sale as he loses his loyalty bonus

[r0cafella]

6 minutes ago, Mattoon said:

 

If the choices are unhappy striker or no striker at all is it even a choice? No amount of money or unhappiness can substitute going into a new season with 4 competitions and around 50 games with Osula as our only option, no one is that stupid.

 

Again not relevant, weather we sell him or he stays and doesn't play is the same thing. 

 

Ultimately the approach is real simple. He does not to to Liverpool this season. If they want to try again next season they are welcome but memo should be made to clear to both him and then the way they've gone about this will not be rewarded. 

[RobsonsWonderland]

16 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Again not relevant, weather we sell him or he stays and doesn't play is the same thing. 

 

Ultimately the approach is real simple. He does not to to Liverpool this season. If they want to try again next season they are welcome but memo should be made to clear to both him and then the way they've gone about this will not be rewarded. 

And hopefully other bidders come to the party next year.

 

 

 

Edited August 6, 2025 by RobsonsWonderland

[Mattoon]

4 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Again not relevant, weather we sell him or he stays and doesn't play is the same thing. 

 

Ultimately the approach is real simple. He does not to to Liverpool this season. If they want to try again next season they are welcome but memo should be made to clear to both him and then the way they've gone about this will not be rewarded. 

 

But if he stays he will come back to the fold, yes we might have to start the season with Gordon and Osula but it's better than a whole season without a striker. But of course you're right it's not just about our options, we can't allow Liverpool to get what they want after the way they've acted, I'd even sell for less so they don't get him now.

[KingArthur]

6 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Again not relevant, weather we sell him or he stays and doesn't play is the same thing. 

 

Ultimately the approach is real simple. He does not to to Liverpool this season. If they want to try again next season they are welcome but memo should be made to clear to both him and then the way they've gone about this will not be rewarded. 

If Isak is here 1st of September, he will play. I cannot remember a single time player has gone to such a strike that he wouldn't play for months.

[Nobody]

1 minute ago, KingArthur said:

If Isak is here 1st of September, he will play. I cannot remember a single time player has gone to such a strike that he wouldn't play for months.

It's also better for us to have him in our reserves than playing for Liverpool, if that very unlikely scenario was to happen. 

[r0cafella]

10 minutes ago, KingArthur said:

If Isak is here 1st of September, he will play. I cannot remember a single time player has gone to such a strike that he wouldn't play for months.

I probably worded things badly. Point i was trying to make is weather we keep him or sell him is the same thing in terms of if he intends not to play.  If he plays it's obviously a bonus. 

[lovejoy]

Feels like a big day in this saga today. He should be back in with Howe and the players.

 

I also think we’ll officially get the knock back from Šeško today so clarity will come with this one way or the other imo and we’ll find out what stance we’re going to take.

[RUHRLYASLEEVESUP]

Me & Adam P off up the training ground soon

[Rosenrot]

Looks like Nunez is going to the Saudi league 

[JT24]

1 minute ago, Rosenrot said:

Looks like Nunez is going to the Saudi league 

Doesn’t mean much since Newcastle’s inability to sign a player means Isak is going nowhere. 

[Zero]

If he formally tell us he wants to leave then we will just formally tell him he won’t be allowed to leave.

 

It’s already not a question of happy or unhappy or business or what. No club in the world would sell their only striker on paper with so many games ahead. 
 

I think Liverpool somewhat know this is the case too - they are finding substitutes for Isak already. Why would Liverpool want to gamble on 31 Aug last attempt bid and risk having Ekitike as their only striker as well? 
 

The Sesko deal has a very big impact on the big picture. I genuinely think Liverpool might not come back and that’s it for Isak.

 

Some of my scouser friends even suggest that Liverpool should hijack the Sesko deal themselves and then move on to other positions. I somewhat agree with that.

 

 

Edited August 6, 2025 by Zero

[RUHRLYASLEEVESUP]

Can't help feeling Isak (Areet wor kid) has painted himself into a corner here, him or his agent have fucked this for themselves, their timing has been woeful, their reading of the room terrible & the agitation for a move has irked PIF / Yasir to the point I hope he tells them both to piss off & stick to their contractual agreements given their actions have destabilised the clubs planning, management & fanbase.

The "I want" superstars of the football world have ran roughshod over clubs ad infinitum & someone has to put a stop to it or normal fans like us will ultimately walk away as the glass ceiling is becoming thicker each passing season & people will think whats the point.

It has to stop somewhere & why can't that be PIF with the Areet work kid - Kid 

Prob miles away & zero chance of happening but maybe just maybe there's a chance