Kid Icarus Posted August 10, 2025 Share Posted August 10, 2025 (edited) Why did I read all that and why am I not surprised by who's strawmanning out the wazoo yet again. Hindsight can happen quickly. Whether we liked Pardew in the 5th season or not, by the time we'd lost 2-1 at home to Reading the following season, literally everyone but two posters (one of which left - hopefully out of shame) hated him and we had another almost 2 years of his lies and shit football after that. That's the Pardew cycle, he goes to a football club, does his Lyle Lanley PR bit, fans get taken in, there's a honeymoon period, then he destroys your love for football and you resent him for the rest of your life. Edited August 10, 2025 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 10, 2025 Share Posted August 10, 2025 1 hour ago, oldtype said: Don't make me dig up your posts from 2010 guys. It's fine to just admit that we all collectively got fooled for a moment there. I'd fight that slur to my dying day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted August 10, 2025 Share Posted August 10, 2025 (edited) You'll be lucky to find anything positive from anyone still here in 2010, considering he came in in December 2010 under a cloud and his redemption arc with some posters was August 2011 to May 2012 and at the latest January 2013 Edited August 10, 2025 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted August 10, 2025 Share Posted August 10, 2025 I remember the phrase "papering over the cracks" being used a lot here during the 2011-12 season. We rarely looked like a collective unit and won a lot because of individual brilliance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 10, 2025 Share Posted August 10, 2025 I can still remember putting the 5th place finish down to Pardew stumbling onto a winning formula by mistake. HBA was out of the side and only got in due to injury, otherwise I'm pretty sure he was playing Ryan Taylor down one of the flanks before that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted August 10, 2025 Share Posted August 10, 2025 Nice anecdote here from Pardew days, I had lost my password and didn’t have access to my uni emails anymore to reset it, so I asked Cajun via Facebook to sort me out a new password. Let’s say it was very anti Pardew Still have the same password, how could I change it, miss you Jon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted August 10, 2025 Share Posted August 10, 2025 8 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Why did I read all that and why am I not surprised by who's strawmanning out the wazoo yet again. Hindsight can happen quickly. Whether we liked Pardew in the 5th season or not, by the time we'd lost 2-1 at home to Reading the following season, literally everyone but two posters (one of which left - hopefully out of shame) hated him and we had another almost 2 years of his lies and shit football after that. That's the Pardew cycle, he goes to a football club, does his Lyle Lanley PR bit, fans get taken in, there's a honeymoon period, then he destroys your love for football and you resent him for the rest of your life. This post is literally just the point I was trying to make, so who’s straw manning? Most people liked Pardew when he finished fifth. And then we turned on him quickly when he turned out to be a fraud. If everyone agrees, great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted August 10, 2025 Share Posted August 10, 2025 I never liked him. Pretty saw if I looked through old posts I'd hopefully not find anything to contradict that. Used to to think we were doing well in spite of him and not because of him in the 11-12 season. I was also a Ben Arfa fanboy back then so was probably natural to be anti pards when he kept him on the bench for half a season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted August 10, 2025 Share Posted August 10, 2025 6 minutes ago, oldtype said: This post is literally just the point I was trying to make, so who’s straw manning? Most people liked Pardew when he finished fifth. And then we turned on him quickly when he turned out to be a fraud. If everyone agrees, great. Right there for a start. There was a huge split on here, there's no way that it was most people. Looking back for posts in 2010...there'll be very few if any. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted August 10, 2025 Share Posted August 10, 2025 (edited) 13th 12th 18th Championship 12th 5th 16th 10th 15th 18th Championship These were our finishes for the five seasons before and after we finished fifth. If people are taking offense because they genuinely believe they felt no fondness for the manager in the one season where we almost made the champions league in the midst of all of this bullshit, then congratulations on being a far more disciplined fan than I am I guess. (Shrug) Edited August 10, 2025 by oldtype Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Posted August 10, 2025 Share Posted August 10, 2025 (edited) The redemption of Alan Pardew, Luke Edwards being the lone warrior in the media defending Newcastle, the best player we've had in generations shape shifting into a devious snake and David Ornstein's mask slipping, revealing him to be another cartel shill on the gravy train we're most certainly not on my bingo card. This window feels like a fever dream that would even make Freddy Krueger wake up screaming Edited August 10, 2025 by Moose Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted August 10, 2025 Share Posted August 10, 2025 Before we get back on topic..I disliked Pardew straight away because of the shit way they got rid of Houghton and within weeks Andy Carroll was sold. Both of these things tied him to Ashley's reign and a 5th place finish was never going to turn people's heads after Kinnear / relegation / shearer etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted August 10, 2025 Share Posted August 10, 2025 (edited) Interesting today Liverpool look like they have a shite defence. Maybe I stead of spiffing 150 on Isak they will look to buy players at the other end of the pitch Edited August 10, 2025 by OverThere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted August 10, 2025 Share Posted August 10, 2025 1 hour ago, Ash said: Ha, perfect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted August 11, 2025 Share Posted August 11, 2025 Pardew was definitely not loved at any point, like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPar Posted August 11, 2025 Share Posted August 11, 2025 No, a few goals will not erase his tawdry behaviour towards the club. Scoring goals is however,his fucking job. As long as he keeps doing that then I'll keep shtoom about his prickishness until he fucks off next summer. If though he continues with his ED-209 tantrum then it wont work. Our owner will simply leave him too it and probably find a loophole to not only avoid paying him but sue him aswell. It will also make any would-be suitors think carefully about buying a big bubbly baby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted August 11, 2025 Share Posted August 11, 2025 Can we not just be present with our current round of modest-ish discontent without revisiting past, much worse periods of discontent (read: incandescent rage). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fountain Posted August 11, 2025 Share Posted August 11, 2025 Any transfer request yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric Posted August 11, 2025 Share Posted August 11, 2025 1 minute ago, The Fountain said: Any transfer request yet? He won't want to risk his 'loyalty' bonus or any similar associated fees, the little snide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fountain Posted August 11, 2025 Share Posted August 11, 2025 2 minutes ago, Elric said: He won't want to risk his 'loyalty' bonus or any similar associated fees, the little snide. No transfer request means Liverpool have made a bid which we've knocked back for a player who hasn't asked to leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted August 11, 2025 Share Posted August 11, 2025 54 minutes ago, B-more Mag said: Can we not just be present with our current round of modest-ish discontent without revisiting past, much worse periods of discontent (read: incandescent rage). We only understand events in the context of rage, man. We had to hold this bullshit up to the light of 80 years of Alan Pardew for perspective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted August 11, 2025 Share Posted August 11, 2025 54 minutes ago, Elric said: He won't want to risk his 'loyalty' bonus or any similar associated fees, the little snide. Loyalty WTF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted August 11, 2025 Share Posted August 11, 2025 Pardew is a cunt, with flawed personality, ego etc. But he is definitely not the worst manager ever. Souness is top of my list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted August 11, 2025 Share Posted August 11, 2025 BBC: TaylorJ is readying a transfer request due to rancid Alan Pardew revisionist love in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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