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So Liverpool lets everyone know they have a bid ready, but they don't want to submit it until Newcastle "open the door". This is obviously a call for Isak to act. They know that if they start bidding, they will just drive up the price with rejected bids. Then, as they expected, Isak start acting up.

 

Liverpool eventually lowballs knowing that it will get rejected, and as planned stops bidding to not drive the price up, while letting everyone including Isak know that his club is still not cooperating at all, so he needs to do more. Now they are just waiting for the mood to sour more and more so they can finally start negotiating the price down as much as possible when the window gets closer to its conclusion.

 

 

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The bit people miss is that the club owns the registration for the player which is needed for them to represent you in a given competition. Its really this registration that gets bought and sold and not the person.

 

Think of it like a work visa, the player is free to cancel their contract at any point, but in the same way that someone tied to a sponsored visa is likely to have to move countries if they just up and leave the player won't be able to play professional football. Companies can of course work to transfer visas (in most cases), and clubs can work to transfer the registration via a transfer fee

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3 minutes ago, Erikse said:

So Liverpool lets everyone know they have a bid ready, but they don't want to submit it until Newcastle "open the door". This is obviously a call for Isak to act. They know that if they start bidding, they will just drive up the price with rejected bids. Then, as they expected, Isak start acting up.

 

Liverpool eventually lowballs knowing that it will get rejected, and stops bidding to not drive the price up, while everyone including Isak know that his club is still not cooperating at all, so he needs to do more. Now they are just waiting for the mood to sour more and more so they can finally start negotiating the price down as much as possible when the window gets closer to its conclusion.

Swings and roundabouts. Being this close to the end of the window, and with us not having a single established striker at the club would only make us more likely to keep him and do the hard work of trying to reintegrate him. Meanwhile, Liverpool are spending more money on defenders and are still short of a winger and a striker, so they'd be getting somewhat desperate too. A "sour mood" may influence us to stand firm even more, so as not to set an unhealthy precedent for the future. We have rich owners.

 

 

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23 minutes ago, Chris_R said:

 

It's weird this. I mean I agree with you 100%, clearly.

 

But I always find it odd that football is the only subject where we cheer the corporate entity over the employee. In any other circumstance we'd be on the other side, or at least I hope we'd be. But football flips it around.

It's hard to feel sorry for footballers on 10 to 20 million pounds a year.

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I just don’t get it why our owners show no interest about this. There is absolutely nobody in charge of solving this.
 

They could easily solve this by selling Isak to Saudis for £200m and promise transfer in January for some price with part of transfer coming to us.

 

Or absolutely ANYTHING other than silence and feeling like nobody care.

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Just now, Elephant said:

I just don’t get it why our owners show no interest about this. There is absolutely nobody in charge of solving this.
 

They could easily solve this by selling Isak to Saudis for £200m and promise transfer in January for some price with part of transfer coming to us.

 

Or absolutely ANYTHING other than silence and feeling like nobody care.

Is the silence by the club ‘doing something’ basically saying fuck you dippers?

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4 minutes ago, Elephant said:

I just don’t get it why our owners show no interest about this. There is absolutely nobody in charge of solving this.
 

They could easily solve this by selling Isak to Saudis for £200m and promise transfer in January for some price with part of transfer coming to us.

 

Or absolutely ANYTHING other than silence and feeling like nobody care.

 

There was an investigation on us after selling ASM to Saudi for £27m.. If we could have just sold him to Saudi for £200m, he would already be there.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Elephant said:

I just don’t get it why our owners show no interest about this. There is absolutely nobody in charge of solving this.
 

They could easily solve this by selling Isak to Saudis for £200m and promise transfer in January for some price with part of transfer coming to us.

 

Or absolutely ANYTHING other than silence and feeling like nobody care.

 

Like with the Guehi thing last year, I just don't think we like playing things out in public. 

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8 minutes ago, Elephant said:

I just don’t get it why our owners show no interest about this. There is absolutely nobody in charge of solving this.
 

They could easily solve this by selling Isak to Saudis for £200m and promise transfer in January for some price with part of transfer coming to us.

 

Or absolutely ANYTHING other than silence and feeling like nobody care.

 

I don't think there's no interest, I just don't think its in the public domain, say it once, say it loud and clear, "not for sale" anything else is just noise and shows weakness to continually fight the narrative, we've got the narrative, nothing has changed. The door is open for Isak to come back that is all, the Saudis won't be dragged into some futile drama.

 

It's a stoic silence.

 

 

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I don’t get the (We can’t find a player to replace Isak) Narrative 

 

As mentioned a few times , we have 8 billion people living on this planet

 

We should have a super charged scouting network to unearth gems 

 

Brighton signed Baleba for £23m and now asking for £120m

 

Lots of very talented players all over the world that just need a chance 

 

Bring two very promising young players in,  as well as Wissa and trust your judgment 

 

 

Bargains to be had if you look hard enough !!

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6 minutes ago, JonBez comesock said:

I don’t get the (We can’t find a player to replace Isak) Narrative 

 

As mentioned a few times , we have 8 billion people living on this planet

 

We should have a super charged scouting network to unearth gems 

 

Brighton signed Baleba for £23m and now asking for £120m

 

Lots of very talented players all over the world that just need a chance 

 

Bring two very promising young players in,  as well as Wissa and trust your judgment 

 

 

Bargains to be had if you look hard enough !!

 

Don't think you'll find someone who's oven ready that could do it in Champions League, Premier League AND not be a significant drop off from Isak (big ask..)  that nobody else is heard of.

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20 minutes ago, Elephant said:

I just don’t get it why our owners show no interest about this. There is absolutely nobody in charge of solving this.
 

They could easily solve this by selling Isak to Saudis for £200m and promise transfer in January for some price with part of transfer coming to us.

 

Or absolutely ANYTHING other than silence and feeling like nobody care.

Can't sell to Saudi as we wouldn't fully benefit from the PSR profit.

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29 minutes ago, Colos Short and Curlies said:

The bit people miss is that the club owns the registration for the player which is needed for them to represent you in a given competition. Its really this registration that gets bought and sold and not the person.


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30 minutes ago, Erikse said:

So Liverpool lets everyone know they have a bid ready, but they don't want to submit it until Newcastle "open the door". This is obviously a call for Isak to act. They know that if they start bidding, they will just drive up the price with rejected bids. Then, as they expected, Isak start acting up.

 

Liverpool eventually lowballs knowing that it will get rejected, and as planned stops bidding to not drive the price up, while letting everyone including Isak know that his club is still not cooperating at all, so he needs to do more. Now they are just waiting for the mood to sour more and more so they can finally start negotiating the price down as much as possible when the window gets closer to its conclusion.

 

 

 

 

That's their strategy and they've got no cards left to play. They'll wait and pray. 

 

Our strategy is do what's best for Newcastle and so we tried to sign a replacement. It didn't work out and since Liverpool aren't offering a tempting bid (which would have to be huge), he looks more likely to stay with each passing day. 

 

I wonder if a loan or loan to buy deal to anyone but Liverpool will be the best outcome for us. Plenty clubs want to sign Isak but the timing probably doesn't work in terms of cash flow. A loan gets us a loan fee for now, gets rid of a bad apple and he gets games which preserves his value, all while making a stand against Liverpool's snide tactics. 

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8 minutes ago, ohmelads said:

 

That's their strategy and they've got no cards left to play. They'll wait and pray. 

 

Our strategy is do what's best for Newcastle and so we tried to sign a replacement. It didn't work out and since Liverpool aren't offering a tempting bid (which would have to be huge), he looks more likely to stay with each passing day. 

 

I wonder if a loan or loan to buy deal to anyone but Liverpool will be the best outcome for us. Plenty clubs want to sign Isak but the timing probably doesn't work in terms of cash flow. A loan gets us a loan fee for now, gets rid of a bad apple and he gets games which preserves his value, all while making a stand against Liverpool's snide tactics. 

Loan would be perfect as long as we got 2 players in. Considering hes not on massive wages im perplexed theres been no enquiries for that outcome. Rumours Lewandowski to Saudis, loan for Isak is the type of deal Barce would lap up considering their financial situation.

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Just now, WinstonFC said:

Loan would be perfect as long as we got 2 players in. Considering hes not on massive wages im perplexed theres been no enquiries for that outcome. Rumours Lewandowski to Saudis, loan for Isak is the type of deal Barce would lap up considering their financial situation.

"He will never play for Newcastle again"....but also "He ONLY wants Liverpool".

 

What happens if he doesn't get the latter? 

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He’s just the modern footballer who wants to win things, has zero connections to the area / club beyond the superficial and has a twat of an agent who wants his comish. Yes, he’s been a twat but don’t take it personally. Have no doubt Gordon would do exactly the same if Liverpool wanted him.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Ronaldo said:

He’s just the modern footballer who wants to win things, has zero connections to the area / club beyond the superficial and has a twat of an agent who wants his comish. Yes, he’s been a twat but don’t take it personally. Have no doubt Gordon would do exactly the same if Liverpool wanted him.

 

 

 

They did and he didn't?

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3 minutes ago, Ronaldo said:

He’s just the modern footballer who wants to win things, has zero connections to the area / club beyond the superficial and has a twat of an agent who wants his comish. Yes, he’s been a twat but don’t take it personally. Have no doubt Gordon would do exactly the same if Liverpool wanted him.

 

 


They did want him last summer yet he didn’t carry on like this.

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